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Whenever im installing applications that i dont care where they go do i HAVE To put them in program files(x86) which is the ssd folder or can i just brows and make a whole new folder for apps to boot of my secondary 1tb harddrive?

After i reached the step where it says restart and plug other drives. I restarted plugged my 1tb harddrive and it still has windows and all. When i booted up i went to format it but i saw a third harddrive called system reserved (G:) its 100mb what do i do with that? Is that from the SSD or from the HDD
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Whenever im installing applications that i dont care where they go do i HAVE To put them in program files(x86) which is the ssd folder or can i just brows and make a whole new folder for apps to boot of my secondary 1tb harddrive?
After i reached the step where it says restart and plug other drives. I restarted plugged my 1tb harddrive and it still has windows and all. When i booted up i went to format it but i saw a third harddrive called system reserved (G:) its 100mb what do i do with that? Is that from the SSD or from the HDD

go into disk management and you will see which drive its a part of.
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Use MBR and if you read you will see it actually does tell you the differences. wink.gif

Yes, use MBR. GPT is a pain in the butt! LOL

A quick update on my situation to share with the world since there wasn't much information in one place found when searching this past week. Maybe adding some of these additional differences to the OP can help people decide better between MBR and GPT. tongue.gif

1. Confirmed that Windows Home Server 2011 does not support backing up GPT disks. (no matter how many times you try, it just will not support it (CURRENTLY) unless some kind of service pack is released from MS. The annoying part of it is that WHS2011 does not give you any kind of error message noting that it failed to backup your client PC because it doesnt support GPT. It will give you weird VSS errors in the event log and/or no error at all!)
2. Confirmed that even with the built in Win7 system image tool, you CANNOT make a bootable disk that will allow you to recover said system image if you are using GPT. The original Win7 install disk (which of course is bootable) also is not supported and it will say that it cannot find your system image when attempting to restore.
- Small caveat: The Windows 8 (Consumer preview) disk which was release this week amazingly does allow you to boot and restore!!! HOWEVER, the key thing to note here for me was that even though the Win8 disk allowed me to recover my Win7 GPT system image, it does too nice job of actually recreating that image. Including reformatting the disk back to GPT even if the disk you want to restore to is MBR! mad.gif

So as of today, I converted my 256GB M4 SSD back to MBR from GPT and am in the process of reinstalling all of my software and reactivating them. WHS2011 is now backing up my Win7 installation on the MBR disk without any issues.

One small thing I did notice, not sure if it's me just being paranoid or not was that it appears that now that I converted over to MBR from GPT, it feels like my boot times are just a few seconds longer now. I'll have to run a few more tests later after all of the win7 updates and patches finishes installing completely but I feel that I notice a significant enough difference between the boot times. However, the additional benefit of maybe a few seconds saved with GPT does not outweigh the fact that GPT is sorely lacking in the backup/system image support department (even with Microsofts own tools).

Thanks again Sean for the guide. It was a nice to be able to go back to one location and get all of the Win7 install info in one place.
(When is the Win8 guide coming out? LOL tongue.gif)
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2. Confirmed that even with the built in Win7 system image tool, you CANNOT make a bootable disk that will allow you to recover said system image if you are using GPT. The original Win7 install disk (which of course is bootable) also is not supported and it will say that it cannot find your system image when attempting to restore.
- Small caveat: The Windows 8 (Consumer preview) disk which was release this week amazingly does allow you to boot and restore!!! HOWEVER, the key thing to note here for me was that even though the Win8 disk allowed me to recover my Win7 GPT system image, it does too nice job of actually recreating that image. Including reformatting the disk back to GPT even if the disk you want to restore to is MBR! mad.gif
Lies! I've done it fine. tongue.gif
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One small thing I did notice, not sure if it's me just being paranoid or not was that it appears that now that I converted over to MBR from GPT, it feels like my boot times are just a few seconds longer now.
Really? Boot was longer with GPT for me.

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Thanks again Sean for the guide. It was a nice to be able to go back to one location and get all of the Win7 install info in one place.
(When is the Win8 guide coming out? LOL tongue.gif)
Windows 8 install guide comes out when it is released XD.
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2. Confirmed that even with the built in Win7 system image tool, you CANNOT make a bootable disk that will allow you to recover said system image if you are using GPT. The original Win7 install disk (which of course is bootable) also is not supported and it will say that it cannot find your system image when attempting to restore.
- Small caveat: The Windows 8 (Consumer preview) disk which was release this week amazingly does allow you to boot and restore!!! HOWEVER, the key thing to note here for me was that even though the Win8 disk allowed me to recover my Win7 GPT system image, it does too nice job of actually recreating that image. Including reformatting the disk back to GPT even if the disk you want to restore to is MBR! mad.gif
Lies! I've done it fine. tongue.gif

Are you being serious or just messing with me? tongue.gif I for the life of me couldn't get the recovery disk it made to boot. And then I found that link from above and they had the same issues as me. Luckily I had decided to try Win8 and had the ISO laying around that worked. Either way, it wouldn't have helped me if the original disk booted anyways since it would have restored everything back to GPT LOL
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Are you being serious or just messing with me? tongue.gif I for the life of me couldn't get the recovery disk it made to boot. And then I found that link from above and they had the same issues as me. Luckily I had decided to try Win8 and had the ISO laying around that worked. Either way, it wouldn't have helped me if the original disk booted anyways since it would have restored everything back to GPT LOL

lol, nah, i'm serious.

I did however have an issue with a older recovery disk i made when i had MBR set up and I tried to use it on the GPT and it wouldn't work. But I remade the recovery CD with the GPT disk and it worked fine. I have done 6 restores under GPT format fine. I had one screw up after a secure erase tho, I think it was a bad 7zip extraction and a file was corrupt, i re-extracted and it worked fine.
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Good to know. I should change my statement to "Confirmed on some instances" then LOL. Thanks again.
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Thanks for all the info, 1st SSD set up per your posts.

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I'm pretty happy with my sata II drive it's not as fast as a sata III but it's light years ahead of having my os on a hard drive.
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I know this might be slightly off topic Sean, but I did a re-install today and noticed that when I follow your link and install Intel RST, I still have a "!" unknown device in my device manager-> other device, and no "storage controller" Naturally, I downloaded the correct version (Win 7 x64.) of Intel RST... But its odd. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
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