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Originally Posted by 78@pwnt4lif3 View Post

Do you think 200gb and up SSD will ever get cheaper one day? They seem so extremely expensive. I have been keeping an eye on those new INtel 520's and other brands that came out but the INtel new ones are really interesting to have. Gonna wait til it's the right time to go bigger. I want more stuff on the SSD so every game i own can load in it biggrin.gif Not just BF3!

Yea of course. smile.gif

Also, Micron is also releasing a new SSD line this summer most likely and Samsung is developing a new controller for their drives as well.
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Interesting! I am very happy with my SSD but i would love a bigger drive. Now i need to suck it up soon and just push my overclocks cuz i hate seeing WEI score 7.3 cuz of my mild overclock lmao. Everything else is 7.9 but memory is 7.7.
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Hi Sean,

Amazing stuff you've put together! Thanks! I've read through almost half of the pages here, but I still need help! I've tried searching this post specifically, but it's hard to search using words that return hundreds of posts...

I've got a 1TB HDD with one partition devoted to my OS, and the other devoted to all my data. I'd like to clone the OS to my new Crucial M4 128GB SSD but continue using the old HDD as a data drive. I used another tutorial before I found yours that suggested using EaseUS Partition Master to clone my old OS partition to the SSD. I did that, but the new cloned drive had disk letter M:\. I restarted the computer and changed my boot order to start w/ the new SSD, but I got the BOOTMGR error. Following other advice I found, I tried repairing the issue using my Win7 CD, but that didn't fix the problem. I wondered if I should just change the drive letters around, but other sites suggested that wasn't a good idea either.

So, I started looking for another method and came across your post. I've been following post #2150, but I'm lost at what to do from step 10 onward. After I make the backup, how do I restore the image to my SSD? I placed the image on an external drive, and in the "Backup and Restore" control panel, it says "Windows could not find a backup for this computer."

You then point us to your "Now It's Time For The System Set Up!" section, but I'm confused on a couple of points...

1) After the image restore is done, do I unplug my old 1TB HDD and then restart? Do I change the boot order in my BIOS at this point?
2) If I do unplug my old HDD, at what point do I plug it back in so I can access all my data?
3) Do I get rid of the old OS partition? And if so, when and how do I do this?

Sorry if you've already answered this stuff, and I know it's a lot of questions, but I've spent the last three hours looking through these pages, looking up terms I don't understand, and I'm feeling really frazzled! If you could help I'd be so grateful!

ps - I have a LOT of programs installed and would prefer not to start with a fresh install of Windows 7 unless I absolutely have to.
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First thing to do is split the current drive into 2 partitions and move all you non OS data onto the new made partition.
Do this:
  1. Shrink the old HDD OS partition. (link)
  2. Then make a new partition on the HDD in the free space. (link)
  3. Then move the personal files to the new partition, like your such as pics, video, music, documents, and Steam, etc.
  4. Now you may have to keep shrinking and expanding the partitions as you do this depending on how much free space you have on your drive.
  5. When you are done moving the data then you should be ~ the right size to make system image to restore to the 64GB drive.
  6. If not then check out my maintenance section, run ccleaner, discleanup, etc and disable the hibernation file and page file.
  7. Keep shrinking the C: partition as small as you can while doing this.
  8. If still not small enough if you have any non steam games installed you will have to uninstall them and re-install after you restore the system image.
  9. This is how to make the system image: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
  10. Once you make the image you can hook up the SSD and restore the image to it.
  11. Then go through my "Now It's Time For The System Set Up!" section of my guide and make sure you run WEI.
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I've been reading all I can to update myself on storage, but I admit I'm behind the times in this area. Is there going to be a good way to transfer my OS to the M4 or will I have to reinstall? I'm also planning an Ivy Bridge build as soon as everything is in general availability but that may be May / June or later. Should I just wait until then? Reinstall Win7, or is there a way to migrate just the OS?
Migrate now if you like.
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Also, my current board runs Intel ICH9R. I know I'm not going to get max performance out of these SSDs until I upgrade. Any advice on what I should do? Many thanks,
Clear
Barely a difference in real world use in SATA 2 and 3, don't worry. wink.gif
I may have left something out just let me know if you are confused any.
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Yep the intel sata driver is installed. thumb.gif

This is good. Shouldn't a Storage Controller category be present in Device Manager to reflect this? All threads on the subject point to this.


Try this?
Fix W.E.I. scores reporting wrong:
Go to C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT and delete the winsat.txt
Then go to C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore and delete all the files in there.
Now restart W.E.I.
Note: The scores should be the proper score now.

[/quote]

Followed instructions with no luck. Still get same message. DataStore folder remains empty. Attaching the log file for you.

winsat.txt 33k .txt file
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I did your method on turning off drive indexing but when I looked at the OS optimization in the magician tool for my samsung 830 it shows it still enabled. I ran the tune from the software and disabled it there. Why did the tool still think it was enabled?
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Do you think 200gb and up SSD will ever get cheaper one day? They seem so extremely expensive. I have been keeping an eye on those new INtel 520's and other brands that came out but the INtel new ones are really interesting to have. Gonna wait til it's the right time to go bigger. I want more stuff on the SSD so every game i own can load in it biggrin.gif Not just BF3!

Definitely. I was watching newegg for about a month and prices are jumping up and down all over the place, which is a sign that they are slowly lowering pricing. At one time I saw a Crucial 256GB M4 on sale for $280 US with Free Shipping, a 64GB M4 for $60 US FS, and I bought my soon to arrive 128 GB Samsung 830 for $184 US FS. I know the Sandforce drives are cheaper but I was not looking for that controller type. These prices were true pricing, no Mail in Rebate nonsense.

If you want an SSD watch the prices, seems to be a sale for Samsung, Crucial, and Plextor drives almost every week.
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I don't know about Crucial though. I just want the best SSD there is and not a crappy one that'll break even if it's 200gb and up especially for the price itself to made last long. I'm more leaning towards the INtel ones cuz they have good warranty but no idea about the other brands cuz i never tried them. I oughta look up some benchmarks and see what is the best for my buck. Right now the INtel suits me fine and i DO want the newest one that came out.
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Hi Sean,

Any idea what could be causing these low random reads and writes in general?
http://imgur.com/JdGiG

Installed in a MSI laptop MS-16F2.

It's weird because I didn't have a problem with my M4 (on desktop) but the hyperX even with the latest firmware seems to be a downer.

Thanks
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I did your method on turning off drive indexing but when I looked at the OS optimization in the magician tool for my samsung 830 it shows it still enabled. I ran the tune from the software and disabled it there. Why did the tool still think it was enabled?

???
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Hi Sean,

Amazing stuff you've put together! Thanks! I've read through almost half of the pages here, but I still need help! I've tried searching this post specifically, but it's hard to search using words that return hundreds of posts...

I've got a 1TB HDD with one partition devoted to my OS, and the other devoted to all my data. I'd like to clone the OS to my new Crucial M4 128GB SSD but continue using the old HDD as a data drive. I used another tutorial before I found yours that suggested using EaseUS Partition Master to clone my old OS partition to the SSD. I did that, but the new cloned drive had disk letter M:\. I restarted the computer and changed my boot order to start w/ the new SSD, but I got the BOOTMGR error. Following other advice I found, I tried repairing the issue using my Win7 CD, but that didn't fix the problem. I wondered if I should just change the drive letters around, but other sites suggested that wasn't a good idea either.

So, I started looking for another method and came across your post. I've been following post #2150, but I'm lost at what to do from step 10 onward. After I make the backup, how do I restore the image to my SSD? I placed the image on an external drive, and in the "Backup and Restore" control panel, it says "Windows could not find a backup for this computer."

You then point us to your "Now It's Time For The System Set Up!" section, but I'm confused on a couple of points...

1) After the image restore is done, do I unplug my old 1TB HDD and then restart? Do I change the boot order in my BIOS at this point?
2) If I do unplug my old HDD, at what point do I plug it back in so I can access all my data?
3) Do I get rid of the old OS partition? And if so, when and how do I do this?

Sorry if you've already answered this stuff, and I know it's a lot of questions, but I've spent the last three hours looking through these pages, looking up terms I don't understand, and I'm feeling really frazzled! If you could help I'd be so grateful!

ps - I have a LOT of programs installed and would prefer not to start with a fresh install of Windows 7 unless I absolutely have to.

You need to have the image at the root of the drive.

you dont need to unplug anything after teh restore lol

plug the old hdd in whenever

you will not have a old os partition after the restore


I am actually making a video guide on this if you can wait a little.

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Originally Posted by frogman946 View Post

This is good. Shouldn't a Storage Controller category be present in Device Manager to reflect this? All threads on the subject point to this.


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Try this?
Fix W.E.I. scores reporting wrong:
Go to C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT and delete the winsat.txt
Then go to C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore and delete all the files in there.
Now restart W.E.I.
Note: The scores should be the proper score now.

Followed instructions with no luck. Still get same message. DataStore folder remains empty. Attaching the log file for you.

winsat.txt 33k .txt file

no idea redface.gif
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Originally Posted by Ragsters View Post

I did your method on turning off drive indexing but when I looked at the OS optimization in the magician tool for my samsung 830 it shows it still enabled. I ran the tune from the software and disabled it there. Why did the tool still think it was enabled?
idk, I haven't used the software or looked into it. Maybe it does something else than what I show.
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Originally Posted by Sxcerino View Post

Hi Sean,

Any idea what could be causing these low random reads and writes in general?
http://imgur.com/JdGiG

Installed in a MSI laptop MS-16F2.

It's weird because I didn't have a problem with my M4 (on desktop) but the hyperX even with the latest firmware seems to be a downer.

Thanks

That is b/c it is in a laptop, laptop SATA controllers limit speeds.
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