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Sean found this tid-bit of info for WD Caviar Black Hard drives.
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Originally Posted by Kramy View Post

.........................................

WD Greens use a 4KiB sector, so aligning to 64K or 1MB is a good practice.


WD Blacks (so far) use a 512b sector, so they don't care about alignment at all.
http://www.overclock.net/t/858269/wd-drives-out-of-alignment#post_11209868


So I am not going to worry about my RAID array alignment.
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Originally Posted by grss1982 View Post

Hey, Sean, how about the download links without SP1 integrated? I don't see it in the first page.

Why? thinking.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by helius View Post

Sean,

I want to quick format and reinstall windows 7 on my SSD. Where on this guide Configure drive using an UEFI motherboard and GPT format: should I put the formatting part? Can I quick format it in the command prompt before typing "diskpart" etc.?

You format in diskpart... so no do not format before.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aparition View Post

Sean found this tid-bit of info for WD Caviar Black Hard drives.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kramy View Post

.........................................

WD Greens use a 4KiB sector, so aligning to 64K or 1MB is a good practice.


WD Blacks (so far) use a 512b sector, so they don't care about alignment at all.
http://www.overclock.net/t/858269/wd-drives-out-of-alignment#post_11209868


So I am not going to worry about my RAID array alignment.

ok
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Is there any other benefits than mentioned on the first page "Configure drive using an UEFI motherboard and GPT format:"? I got 2 WD caviar black 640GB in raid0, should I install my windows 7 with GPT way? Right now I just see one benefit to do it, that I could make more partitions and try windows8 biggrin.gif Has anyone done speed tests GPT vs MBR?
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Hi Sean,

I just got finished watching the videos you put in this sequence for me, I'm thinking that I can drop a few of the steps though. I wouldn't dream of doing that without first checking though. I might think I know what I'm talking about sometimes, but I'm totally willing to find out I'm not.

As I'm upgrading from a misaligned SSD to a new SSD, you recommended I go through the alignment procedures on the old SSD. After watching your two videos showing the backup and restore via EaseUs though, it seems like that alignment step could be skipped. I think I could do this simplified sequence:

1. Backup my C partition from my misaligned current IDE SSD (the alignment wouldn't play any part in the data that's backed up).
2. Make the boot USB.
3. Install my new SSD, take out the old misaligned SSD and sacrificially burn it.
4. Boot (still in IDE mode) and restore the C partition to the new SSD, taking care to check that optimize for SSD box that takes care of alignment.
5. Boot Windows on the new SSD. Check alignment, should be good already. Do another backup as it's a working system now, even if it is IDE.
6. Do the IDE -> AHCI registry change, then reboot and change the BIOS setting to AHCI and reboot.

Net result, one new SSD in AHCI mode aligned, one still-misaligned IDE SSD.

Am I right? Or does the old SSD really need re-aligning before I do the backup that I'd restore from?

edit: in fact, maybe restoring the backup to the old SSD would be the easiest way of realigning it.
Edited by d4005 - 3/11/12 at 3:37pm
    
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Hmm thought this was interesting. The 4 K alignment vs the 4096 K alignment.

4 K
516

4096 K
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Is there any other benefits than mentioned on the first page "Configure drive using an UEFI motherboard and GPT format:"? I got 2 WD caviar black 640GB in raid0, should I install my windows 7 with GPT way? Right now I just see one benefit to do it, that I could make more partitions and try windows8 biggrin.gif Has anyone done speed tests GPT vs MBR?

Just follow the MBR guide. I have no idea if windows 8 will install fine on a GPT disk. You can have 4 main partitions on a MBR disk tho.
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Hi Sean,

I just got finished watching the videos you put in this sequence for me, I'm thinking that I can drop a few of the steps though. I wouldn't dream of doing that without first checking though. I might think I know what I'm talking about sometimes, but I'm totally willing to find out I'm not.

As I'm upgrading from a misaligned SSD to a new SSD, you recommended I go through the alignment procedures on the old SSD. After watching your two videos showing the backup and restore via EaseUs though, it seems like that alignment step could be skipped. I think I could do this simplified sequence:

1. Backup my C partition from my misaligned current IDE SSD (the alignment wouldn't play any part in the data that's backed up).
2. Make the boot USB.
3. Install my new SSD, take out the old misaligned SSD and sacrificially burn it.
4. Boot (still in IDE mode) and restore the C partition to the new SSD, taking care to check that optimize for SSD box that takes care of alignment.
5. Boot Windows on the new SSD. Check alignment, should be good already. Do another backup as it's a working system now, even if it is IDE.
6. Do the IDE -> AHCI registry change, then reboot and change the BIOS setting to AHCI and reboot.

Net result, one new SSD in AHCI mode aligned, one still-misaligned IDE SSD.

Am I right? Or does the old SSD really need re-aligning before I do the backup that I'd restore from?

edit: in fact, maybe restoring the backup to the old SSD would be the easiest way of realigning it.

Looks like a plan. smile.gif

For step 5 I would do not do another back up then but after you change to AHCI mode.

Actually, if you haven't actually done anything yet then change to AHCI mode now, then back up the OS partition(s).
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Hmm thought this was interesting. The 4 K alignment vs the 4096 K alignment.

4 K
516

4096 K
511

Yea, it's good tho, no change, but now it is still better.
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Just follow the MBR guide. I have no idea if windows 8 will install fine on a GPT disk. You can have 4 main partitions on a MBR disk tho.

I ment that now I have every partitions in use so cannot do it with MBR. Im just out of partitions, thats the only problem.
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sean, is it advisable to split the partition before the installation of window 7?, or split the partition after the installation of windows 7?
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A quick one, if im going to edit the registry for program files... Should this be done before or after installing mobo/sound/sata drivers...?
    
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Just follow the MBR guide. I have no idea if windows 8 will install fine on a GPT disk. You can have 4 main partitions on a MBR disk tho.

I ment that now I have every partitions in use so cannot do it with MBR. Im just out of partitions, thats the only problem.
Maybe merge 2 of them? Then you will have 1 free.
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sean, is it advisable to split the partition before the installation of window 7?, or split the partition after the installation of windows 7?
Doesn't matter.
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A quick one, if im going to edit the registry for program files... Should this be done before or after installing mobo/sound/sata drivers...?
Doesn't matter, tho i guess it depends on the program. So just do it after.
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