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5/24/12 at 11:16pm

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Originally Posted by solsamurai

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Run CMD as admin, post a screenshot of the CMD Window when you type this:

Code:

fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo C:

Still at work but will be able to post the screenshot in the next 40-50 minutes. :.)

I'll be asleep lol.

If it Bytes Per Physical Sector is 512 like this, it is not a 4K drive:

If it Bytes Per Physical Sector is 4096 like this, it is a 4K drive:

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Thermalright Silver Arrow	Microsoft Windows 8 Pro	Samsung P2370HD	HPw1907
Power	Case	Audio
Corsair TX650	Corsair 650D	Asus Xonar DX
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Intel i3-2100	ASRock H61M/U3S3	G.Skill Ripjaws X	Samsung Spinpoint F4
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F4	Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000	Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000	Samsung Spinpoint F3
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	OS
Samsung Spinpoint F3	WD Red	WD Red	Microsoft Windows Server 2012
Power	Case	Other
Corsair TX650 v2	Fractal Design Arc Midi	Dell PowerEdge PERC 5/i
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A8 5600K	BIOSTAR Hi-Fi A85W	G.Skill Ripjaws X	Crucial M4
Optical Drive	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Asus DVD Burner	Microsoft Windows 7 Professional	ASUS VE276Q	HPw1907
Power	Case
Antec Neo Eco 520	HAF 912
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i7-2600K	Asus P8Z68-V	MSI GTX 660 Ti PE OC	G.Skill Ares
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Plextor M5 Pro	Seagate Barracuda 7200.12	Seagate Barracuda 7200.12	Asus DVD Burner
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Thermalright Silver Arrow	Microsoft Windows 8 Pro	Samsung P2370HD	HPw1907
Power	Case	Audio
Corsair TX650	Corsair 650D	Asus Xonar DX
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CPU	Motherboard	RAM	Hard Drive
Intel i3-2100	ASRock H61M/U3S3	G.Skill Ripjaws X	Samsung Spinpoint F4
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F4	Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000	Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000	Samsung Spinpoint F3
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	OS
Samsung Spinpoint F3	WD Red	WD Red	Microsoft Windows Server 2012
Power	Case	Other
Corsair TX650 v2	Fractal Design Arc Midi	Dell PowerEdge PERC 5/i
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CPU	Motherboard	RAM	Hard Drive
A8 5600K	BIOSTAR Hi-Fi A85W	G.Skill Ripjaws X	Crucial M4
Optical Drive	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Asus DVD Burner	Microsoft Windows 7 Professional	ASUS VE276Q	HPw1907
Power	Case
Antec Neo Eco 520	HAF 912
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5/25/12 at 1:24am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Webster

I'll be asleep lol.
If it Bytes Per Physical Sector is 512 like this, it is not a 4K drive: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

If it Bytes Per Physical Sector is 4096 like this, it is a 4K drive: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Hmm...pretty sure mine is 512. Physical Sectors info doesn't show up for reasons you probably know, lol. I thought you could format a drive to contain whatever size sectors you wanted. Or is that any size up to the maximum physical sector size already on the disk? Does it matter if it's a basic or dynamic volume? Thanks again for all the help and info. I do alot of sound design at home and was curious about how the larger sector size would work with my audio files and if there would be any noticeable benefit over the 512 I have now.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 955 BE	GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black	DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Thermalright Silve Arrow (TY-140/TY-150)	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm	Thermalright TY-150
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel i5 3570K	GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Series SSD	Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L	Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
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Phenom II X4 955 BE	GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black	DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Thermalright Silve Arrow (TY-140/TY-150)	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm	Thermalright TY-150
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
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Intel i5 3570K	GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Series SSD	Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L	Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
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5/25/12 at 4:20am

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Aw crap, I just built a new machine using a Crucial M4 and completely forgot to check if it is using 4K until I seen the posts above. Going to have to check that when I get home.

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5/25/12 at 4:37am

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im not sure what this 4k alignment thing is...i didn't think it was necessary to look into with brand new ssds and fresh win 7 installations.

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Intel i5-3570K (4.4GHz @ 1.168v)	ASRock Z77 Extreme4	Zotac AMP! GTX 570	G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB DDR3-1600
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Corsair Performance Pro 256GB	Corsair A70	Windows 7 Ultimate x64	Samsung S23A750D (120hz)
Monitor	Power	Case	Mouse
HP ZR24w (IPS)	Antec HCG 750W	Antec 1200	Logitech G400 & G600
Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio	Other
SteelSeries QcK+	X-Fi Titanium HD	Corsair SP2500	Arctic Cooling MX-4
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Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Corsair Performance Pro 256GB	Corsair A70	Windows 7 Ultimate x64	Samsung S23A750D (120hz)
Monitor	Power	Case	Mouse
HP ZR24w (IPS)	Antec HCG 750W	Antec 1200	Logitech G400 & G600
Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio	Other
SteelSeries QcK+	X-Fi Titanium HD	Corsair SP2500	Arctic Cooling MX-4
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5/25/12 at 5:25am

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Originally Posted by malikq86

Sean I think i fixed it...I just set "Turn off the display" to "Never" in Power Options...so far it seems to work 100%. I'll let you know if this fails in the future.
I also have "Put the computer to sleep" , "Require a password on wakeup", and "Turn off hard disk after" all to "Never" (had these settings previously as well).
So as of now, if I want to put my PC to sleep..I have to manually click Start -> Sleep...and then manually turn off the PC monitors (which is totally fine). I always do this manually anyways. I'm a happy camper.

hmm..i think it just failed. I had to ctrl-alt-delete to get back into windows from sleep...just right now. lol

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Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
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Monitor	Power	Case	Mouse
HP ZR24w (IPS)	Antec HCG 750W	Antec 1200	Logitech G400 & G600
Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio	Other
SteelSeries QcK+	X-Fi Titanium HD	Corsair SP2500	Arctic Cooling MX-4
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Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Corsair Performance Pro 256GB	Corsair A70	Windows 7 Ultimate x64	Samsung S23A750D (120hz)
Monitor	Power	Case	Mouse
HP ZR24w (IPS)	Antec HCG 750W	Antec 1200	Logitech G400 & G600
Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio	Other
SteelSeries QcK+	X-Fi Titanium HD	Corsair SP2500	Arctic Cooling MX-4
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5/25/12 at 6:58am

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This is what I get, is there anything wrong ?

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 4.5Ghz	Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 rev1.1	2x GTX680 2GB (SLI)	G.Skill Ripjaws X F3 Black 2133Mhz 9-10-9 2x2GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
Corsair Force GT 240Gb	2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung 22x DVDRW	Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Samsung 32EH5000 32" HD Direct lit LED TV	Razer Black Widow Ultimate	Silverstone Strider Gold 850	Lian Li PCP-80
Mouse	Mouse Pad
Logitech G700/Logitech G9/Razer Mamba	Puretrack Talent
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
Corsair Force GT 240Gb	2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung 22x DVDRW	Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Samsung 32EH5000 32" HD Direct lit LED TV	Razer Black Widow Ultimate	Silverstone Strider Gold 850	Lian Li PCP-80
Mouse	Mouse Pad
Logitech G700/Logitech G9/Razer Mamba	Puretrack Talent
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5/25/12 at 12:23pm

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I found this link on a form somewhere, can't remember where, but it claims this driver for Intel RST provides TRIM for RAID SSD. Anyone know if it actually works? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20984&lang=eng&OSVersion=%0A&DownloadType=

I recently built my father a photo editing machine with RAID0 Samsung 830 (not really for the performance increase, just to make it easier to manage a single volume), and would really like to get TRIM working on it for him if its possible.

I did a lot of looking around and it looks like this will only work with windows 8? Anyone know if there could or will be an update to windows 7 that might help this problem?
Edited by {EAC} Shoot em UP - 5/25/12 at 12:28pm

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Corsair H50 (CPU)	Antec Khuler 620 (GPU)	Windows 8 x64	Logitech G710+
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Cooling	Cooling	OS	Keyboard
Corsair H50 (CPU)	Antec Khuler 620 (GPU)	Windows 8 x64	Logitech G710+
Power	Case	Mouse	Audio
Corsair TX750	Fractal Define XL R2	Logitech G500	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty
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5/25/12 at 1:11pm

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This is what I get, is there anything wrong ?

There's nothing wrong with your drive. Just means you can't use 4K sectors instead of 512. I'm still curious as to why I didn't get any Bytes Per Physical Sector information.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 955 BE	GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black	DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Thermalright Silve Arrow (TY-140/TY-150)	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm	Thermalright TY-150
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel i5 3570K	GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Series SSD	Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L	Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 955 BE	GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black	DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Thermalright Silve Arrow (TY-140/TY-150)	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm	Thermalright TY-150
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel i5 3570K	GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H	MSI R7870 Hawk	CORSAIR XMS3 16GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Series SSD	Samsung 830 Series SSD	Western Digital Caviar Black	Western Digital Caviar Black
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
DVD-RW HL-DT-ST GSA-H60L	Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E	Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm	Phanteks 140mm
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Professional	BenQ GW2450	Microsoft Sidewinder x4	Corsair HX650
Case	Mouse	Audio	Audio
Corsair Obsidian 650D	RAZER DeathAdder	Focusrite Scarlett 8i6	M-Audio AV30 Studio Monitors (upgrading soon)
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5/25/12 at 2:03pm

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Oh ok, for a moment there I thought there was something wrong with the 4096k optimization for my SSD.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 4.5Ghz	Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 rev1.1	2x GTX680 2GB (SLI)	G.Skill Ripjaws X F3 Black 2133Mhz 9-10-9 2x2GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
Corsair Force GT 240Gb	2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung 22x DVDRW	Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Samsung 32EH5000 32" HD Direct lit LED TV	Razer Black Widow Ultimate	Silverstone Strider Gold 850	Lian Li PCP-80
Mouse	Mouse Pad
Logitech G700/Logitech G9/Razer Mamba	Puretrack Talent
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 4.5Ghz	Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 rev1.1	2x GTX680 2GB (SLI)	G.Skill Ripjaws X F3 Black 2133Mhz 9-10-9 2x2GB
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
Corsair Force GT 240Gb	2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Samsung 22x DVDRW	Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Samsung 32EH5000 32" HD Direct lit LED TV	Razer Black Widow Ultimate	Silverstone Strider Gold 850	Lian Li PCP-80
Mouse	Mouse Pad
Logitech G700/Logitech G9/Razer Mamba	Puretrack Talent
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5/25/12 at 7:25pm

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When installing Dropbox, should I install it to my second HDD or have it install directly on the SSD?

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