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So the RAM may be what's wrong. I pulled one of the sticks and so far so good. I ran the Windows Disk repair thing at the very beginning and it went all the way through. Booting back into WIndows now so hopefully it will work. Looks like I bought an SSD for no reason and now it's time to buy some RAM I guess. Going to do a lot of testing first. haha. I wonder how much rep moderators would have if they could receive rep...
Well, I did have almost 1700 rep before I became the storage editor, I think I would haven been at about 2500 or so by now.
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Not sure if that's it. It just locked up for some reason.

[Edit 2]
I've never done it before but I'm trying out WIndows' built in "memory diagnostic tool". The first stick passed fine and that one was the one I was using when it would let me boot into Windows but kept locking up. I'm running it on the other stick now and so far it's fine. I'm going to try to get into memtest after this even though it says everything is fine. Now for some reason this one stick doesn't even let me get into Windows and freezes at the Windows logo. I also went into the bios and messed with voltage. It was set to Auto and I put it back to 1.65v. The timings are loosened up a bit and are the frequency is also downclocked to 1333.

Also, now that you are in the OS try running chkdsk: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html

and sfc /sannow: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html
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Well, I did have almost 1700 rep before I became the storage editor, I think I would haven been at about 2500 or so by now.
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[Edit]
Not sure if that's it. It just locked up for some reason.
[Edit 2]
I've never done it before but I'm trying out WIndows' built in "memory diagnostic tool". The first stick passed fine and that one was the one I was using when it would let me boot into Windows but kept locking up. I'm running it on the other stick now and so far it's fine. I'm going to try to get into memtest after this even though it says everything is fine. Now for some reason this one stick doesn't even let me get into Windows and freezes at the Windows logo. I also went into the bios and messed with voltage. It was set to Auto and I put it back to 1.65v. The timings are loosened up a bit and are the frequency is also downclocked to 1333.
Also, now that you are in the OS try running chkdsk: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html
and sfc /sannow: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html

So I'm really not sure what's going on anymore. I'm currently running on my Samsung F3. I cloned the original Caviar Black onto it and I'm still getting these problems. I can no longer get into Windows either. I've tried each of the sticks and now I'm going to try it in a different slot just in case.

[Edit]
I tried to do the error checking but it locked up right as it began. This is on the Samsung F3 too which I've never had any issues with.

Do you guys think it could be my graphics card? It just locked up and I saw an artifact at the top.

[Edit 2]
Booted into Safe Mode and I'm currently running memtest. After this is done I'm going to download a new set of drivers and hopefully that's all that's wrong.
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Can you show us the SMART data of your drives?

I prefer defraggler if you can. Download it here: http://www.filehippo.com/download_defraggler

Go to the health tab for each of your drives and post some screenshots or text of the SMART data.

It may be your gfx car, or your PSU possibly, or mobo (you updated the BIOS right?) as well.
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Can you show us the SMART data of your drives?
I prefer defraggler if you can. Download it here: http://www.filehippo.com/download_defraggler
Go to the health tab for each of your drives and post some screenshots or text of the SMART data.
It may be your gfx car, or your PSU possibly, or mobo (you updated the BIOS right?) as well.

The Health tab does show errors :/ I did the quick scan on HD Tune Pro and it said it was fine. Under the Health tab everything looks fine except for one row.
"(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count" - Current: 100 - Worst: 100 - Threshold: 0 - Data: 2 - Status: Warning
I don't really know what that means but it obviously can't be good.

Here is a quick update:
Memtest is at 89% and 0 errors so far

I'm running a full error scan on the Samsung drive and nothing so far but it's going to take a while to complete. It's gotten through the first row of the error scan and it's only gone through 52gbs (no bad sectors so far) and it's a 1tb drive so it's going to be while to finish.

In regards to the bios I have never updated the bios. I've never had any issues with it and it's gone through two different CPUs and three different graphics cards.
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Ultra DMA CRC Error Count usually means you should look into changing the SATA cable. 2 isn't many tho. I have a value of 1 on one of my drives for that, that I have had for about 2 years.

For memtest I think you want to do 3-7 runs or so. Maybe like overnight.
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Ultra DMA CRC Error Count usually means you should look into changing the SATA cable. 2 isn't many tho. I have a value of 1 on one of my drives for that, that I have had for about 2 years.
For memtest I think you want to do 3-7 runs or so. Maybe like overnight.

Gotcha. Right now I'm just going to keep running memtest until the hard drive scan finishes. It's at 124 gigs so far with no errors. Memtest is sitting at 132% with no errors. After the hard drive scan I'm going to go for the new graphics card drivers.
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Thanx to Sean.. and great jobs... learn a lot form your post...thumb.gif
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I thought Safe Mode would help but I guess I was wrong. I got through about 60% of the hard drive with no errors and memtest was already over 400% when it locked up again. Now I can't even get into Safe Mode any more. Right now I have an older set of drivers on a thumb drive and I'm trying to get those installed. Really I just want to swipe the current drivers off of the computer and hopefully get some stability. I also removed my sound card because I used to have some problems with certain video card drivers. Unfortunately I don't have another graphics card other then a TI4200 or another rig that I can put the 560Ti in.

[Edit]
Good news and bad news. I managed to run driver sweeper and got rid of the drivers from my computer. I tried booting into regular windows (not safe mode) with the new drivers installed and no luck. It froze up after about 30 seconds.

[Edit 2]
I'm almost positive it's the graphics card. I've been running it without any drivers and it works for a longer period of time. I even made a few runs at installing Windows on the SSD but the furthest I could get was 74%. I'm really not sure what else I can do any more.

[Edit 3]
So I went to the local best buy to see if I could get my 560TI tested in a separate rig and after they said yes on the phone I get there and they say they can't... They did on the other hand tell me that I can buy a new graphics card and I can return it within 30 days for a full refund. So far I've plugged in the new graphics card into both of the PCI-E slots with no luck. Does anyone have any more ideas?
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[Update]
I don't really know what else to do anymore. I have tested the RAM, HDD, GPU, and both PCI-E slots. Does anyone have any more ideas?

Here is how I tested everything:
RAM
Took out one stick and managed to run memtest. It made it through 400% with no errors

HDD
I cloned the original hard drive onto another one that does not have any bad sectors and I'm still getting the same problems. I've tried reinstalling Windows directly to the new SSD (has the latest firmware) from a disk and it also froze up.

GPU
I was worried it was the graphics card because it would freeze and I could occasionally see artifacts. I went to the store and snagged a new GT 520 and plugged it in and I'm getting the same issues. I also plugged it into my second PCI-E slot and was getting the same issues.
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Disable RDP password to log on:

By default, Windows will not allow the logon over a network with a blank password. After you have enabled this, you will be allowed to log on using a blank password.

You can disable blank password restrictions by using a policy. To locate and change this policy:

Click Start, point to Run, type gpedit.msc, and then click OK to start the Group Policy Editor.
Open Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options\Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only.
Double-click Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only.
Click Disabled, and then click OK.
Quit Group Policy Editor.


Can you explain me a bit more what purpose does this serve? Also i cannot find a section in your thread on how to secure wipe "format" a SSD and start fresh again.
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