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I'm just posting to say thank you to Sean, using your guide I got my windows install plus all of my programs down to only 13GBs in size. My free space went from 30.2GBs to 46.5GBs
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I'm just posting to say thank you to Sean, using your guide I got my windows install plus all of my programs down to only 13GBs in size. My free space went from 30.2GBs to 46.5GBs
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Hello Sean,
Thank you for your reply.

May I rephrase my question then , is it possible for me to squeeze in my OS into my 32gig msata comfortably and install everything else on my HDD?

Also Does a ramdisk take up space on the OS partition or I can specify the partition it takes up space of and is the space taken equal to the amount of ram used to make the Ramdisk?

Thank you for your reply once again.
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First of all I have to say THANK YOU to Sean for this guide.

Now about what I have now, what my goal is and some questions. I included as much info in my rig as I could by running Belarc Advisor and dxdiag on my system. I'm not as advanced as all of you guys are here, so if I say something wrong or ask some stupid questions don't lough too loud biggrin.gif
OK. Here I go. My system is currently running WinXP SP3 with 3GB of memory. The goal is to replace my C drive (I have 2 separate drives - one for OS and one for all data) with SSD Win7 64-bit and 16GB of memory. I ordered 128 GB SSD and 16 GB Memory. Everything is on the way and I want to be prepared by the time it gets here.
Well... Going down the checklist.
1. The first problem I bumped into is that I don't have the manual for the motherboard and it looks like there is no way I can get it from Dell. Spent couple of hours with Dell on the phone... Registered on Dell forum to see if anyone has it. Also I was trying to Google it with no success. Finally I gave up and took some pictures for you guys to look at. Maybe it's worth something. I don't know what Marvell SATA port is, so please advise if possible. I would guess that since I have 4 SATA ports on that board and all of them are taken, I'll just connect my SSD where the "C drive" is connected now...
All images are clickable. Click to see bigger size. Once you get there click it again to see full size.
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2. Found the firmware update for BIOS. Will do that.
3. I also took couple pictures of BIOS settings just in case. Please see if everything is correct.
System_overview.jpg
Boot.jpg
CMOS.jpg
CPU.jpg
4. I haven't done Win install in years but still remember going through FDisk, create partition etc. I don't see anything in this guide about creating a partition. Is it done automatically now days or "Convert MBR" command is what I'm looking for?
5. I'm a little confused with 4K alignment. Should I still do it if if I install Win7 with the System Reserve Partition?

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your help. I'm sure I'll have more questions down the road wink.gif
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I recently installed Windows 7 to my new machine and used the optimizations suggested. The difference between this machine and my old machine is that when I use "Playback Devices" under windows sound control, It takes several minutes before this control window appears. I was wondering what in windows controls this and how do I fix it?

I use playback devices to change my sound from my speakers to my headset and vice versa.



SOLUTION:
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Edit: Found the issue!! If you have crossfire enabled, the second GPU's HDMI audio out makes it hang. If you go into device manager and disable the second one (Trial and error). It should solve the issue! Hopefully this will help someone in the future.

Edited by MAD-DUKE - 8/28/12 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by Parzifal View Post

Hello Sean,
Thank you for your reply.

May I rephrase my question then , is it possible for me to squeeze in my OS into my 32gig msata comfortably and install everything else on my HDD?
You should be able to, however for my setup that would be a tight fit. I think that SRT amy be a better option for you than to install the OS separately.
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Also Does a ramdisk take up space on the OS partition or I can specify the partition it takes up space of and is the space taken equal to the amount of ram used to make the Ramdisk?

Thank you for your reply once again.
You can set a RAM disk to save at any location on your PC. If you do not save the RAM disk, then it will not take up any room at all.

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First of all I have to say THANK YOU to Sean for this guide.

Now about what I have now, what my goal is and some questions. I included as much info in my rig as I could by running Belarc Advisor and dxdiag on my system. I'm not as advanced as all of you guys are here, so if I say something wrong or ask some stupid questions don't lough too loud biggrin.gif
OK. Here I go. My system is currently running WinXP SP3 with 3GB of memory. The goal is to replace my C drive (I have 2 separate drives - one for OS and one for all data) with SSD Win7 64-bit and 16GB of memory. I ordered 128 GB SSD and 16 GB Memory. Everything is on the way and I want to be prepared by the time it gets here.
Well... Going down the checklist.
1. The first problem I bumped into is that I don't have the manual for the motherboard and it looks like there is no way I can get it from Dell. Spent couple of hours with Dell on the phone... Registered on Dell forum to see if anyone has it. Also I was trying to Google it with no success. Finally I gave up and took some pictures for you guys to look at. Maybe it's worth something. I don't know what Marvell SATA port is, so please advise if possible. I would guess that since I have 4 SATA ports on that board and all of them are taken, I'll just connect my SSD where the "C drive" is connected now...

All images are clickable. Click to see bigger size. Once you get there click it again to see full size.
Full_view.jpg
CN_054_KM3.jpg
MOBO.jpg

You do not have any Marvell SATA ports, you can plug the SSD in the first SATA port and you will be fine.

You can actually find out what motherboard it is by using CPU-z under the main board tab -> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Then post the model.

You really only need your network and sound driver. All others should be downloaded automatically via Windows update.
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2. Found the firmware update for BIOS. Will do that.
Quote:
3. I also took couple pictures of BIOS settings just in case. Please see if everything is correct.
System_overview.jpg
Boot.jpg
CMOS.jpg
CPU.jpg
✓ - Looks good.
Quote:
4. I haven't done Win install in years but still remember going through FDisk, create partition etc. I don't see anything in this guide about creating a partition. Is it done automatically now days or "Convert MBR" command is what I'm looking for?
Everything is automatic, you can use diskpart to create the partition manually if you like as I show in the guide or you can use the GUI.
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5. I'm a little confused with 4K alignment. Should I still do it if if I install Win7 with the System Reserve Partition?

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for your help. I'm sure I'll have more questions down the road wink.gif
Mike
Doesn't matter, You can forget about it and just install normally. You can not create the System reserve partition when formatting with diskpart unless the drive is GPT formatted (and you would need a newer system with a UEFI BIOS).
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I recently installed Windows 7 to my new machine and used the optimizations suggested. The difference between this machine and my old machine is that when I use "Playback Devices" under windows sound control, It takes several minutes before this control window appears. I was wondering what in windows controls this and how do I fix it?

I use playback devices to change my sound from my speakers to my headset and vice versa.
No idea. You should make a thread in the Windows section.
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Sean, thanks a lot for your answer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

You can actually find out what motherboard it is by using CPU-z under the main board tab -> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Then post the model.
Here it is. I also attached a log file from CPU-Z LOG.txt 89k .txt file
CPU_Z.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

You can not create the System reserve partition when formatting with diskpart unless the drive is GPT formatted (and you would need a newer system with a UEFI BIOS).
Now I'm confused. I read your guide again and
Quote:
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Booting and partitioning of Windows 7 with the System Reserve Partition:

Boot from your Windows 7 installation media.
After booting you see the Install Windows 7 screen, press Shift + F10 to open a command prompt.
At the command prompt, type Diskpart, press Enter.
Type List Disk, press Enter.
Type Select Disk # (where # is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter.
Type Clean, press Enter.
Type Convert MBR, press Enter.
Type Exit, press Enter.
Close the Command Prompt window.
Click the "Next" button.
Click the "Install now" button.
Accept the terms and click the "Next" button.
Choose "Custom: Install Windows only (advanced)."
Select the partition and click "Drive options (advanced)"
Click "New" and then click the "Apply" button. Two partitions should appear. Click the bottom partition.
Click the "OK" button and then click the "Next" button.
From then on follow the on screen instructions till you get to the desktop.
The way I understood it, I can create the System reserve partition when formatting with diskpart. Am I wrong?

Also I have another question. Since I'm going to have 128GB SSD OS drive and 1.5TB regular drive for data, should I do some kind of alignment/pair between those two?
Thanks again.
Mike
Edited by rmike1991 - 8/6/12 at 6:28pm
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Sean, thanks a lot for your answer.

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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

You can actually find out what motherboard it is by using CPU-z under the main board tab -> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Then post the model.
Here it is. I also attached a log file from CPU-Z LOG.txt 89k .txt file
CPU_Z.jpg
Ok, I was going to look for the latest drivers for you if I had the time, however, things have gotten very hectic lately with my family and I may not be able to for a while. If you can just google search around and find them on your own or make a thread and see if someone else can help.

Quote:
Quote:
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You can not create the System reserve partition when formatting with diskpart unless the drive is GPT formatted (and you would need a newer system with a UEFI BIOS).
Now I'm confused. I read your guide again and
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Booting and partitioning of Windows 7 with the System Reserve Partition:

Boot from your Windows 7 installation media.
After booting you see the Install Windows 7 screen, press Shift + F10 to open a command prompt.
At the command prompt, type Diskpart, press Enter.
Type List Disk, press Enter.
Type Select Disk # (where # is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter.
Type Clean, press Enter.
Type Convert MBR, press Enter.
Type Exit, press Enter.
Close the Command Prompt window.
Click the "Next" button.
Click the "Install now" button.
Accept the terms and click the "Next" button.
Choose "Custom: Install Windows only (advanced)."
Select the partition and click "Drive options (advanced)"
Click "New" and then click the "Apply" button. Two partitions should appear. Click the bottom partition.
Click the "OK" button and then click the "Next" button.
From then on follow the on screen instructions till you get to the desktop.
The way I understood it, I can create the System reserve partition when formatting with diskpart. Am I wrong?
From what I tried you can not make a system reserve partition with diskpart on a MBR formatted drive, it needs to be GPT, however you may not even need it. In case you do I have the steps layed out simple for both options. I myself do not need the Systme reserve partition so I use diskpart to format.

Above steps are to just use diskpart to clear off the partition table of the drive before you use the normal GUI to format and setup the system. You are not formatting or making any partitions there.
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Also I have another question. Since I'm going to have 128GB SSD OS drive and 1.5TB regular drive for data, should I do some kind of alignment/pair between those two?
Thanks again.
Mike
Nothing to do really lol. Just use them however you like. everything will be fine.
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Thanks Sean! Take care of your family.
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Any downside to installing the OS on my new drive in RAID mode instead of AHCI? Right now I have an ssd boot drive (that I'm replaceing with a larger Samsung SSD) and one WD 1.5 tb storage drive. That's the setup I'll be using for the next few months. But I may want to switch out the storage drive down the road for a RAID 1 setup to avoid any work downtime. Was originally just going to install using AHCI mode.
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