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Originally Posted by breenemeister;15617181 
Having serious issues with the new mobo/chip and installing Windows 7 Pro. Since I have a new mobo, I'm installing a new Windows 7 Pro OEM and my wife will be getting Ultimat that I had on the other motherboard. Followed the guide with setup in diskpart, etc. Looks just like your screenshots. However, after installing drivers and what not, I shutdown, reconnect the other 3 drives and then Windows won't boot. The Windows logo pops, then I get two runs of the white bar at the bottom showing Windows in Loading Files, then just black screen with cursor in the upper lefthand corner. I tried doing a repair with the disk, but Windows says it can't fix it due to a missing driver. If I disconnect the other three drives, Windows boots fine. In device manager, there is one unkown device, but I can't figure out what it is. However, it's hosing everything up apparently. I tried just connecting different drives and was able to get it to boot normally once with all but my WD Caviar Black 1TB. Unfortunately, that's the only drive that really matters as that is where the user profiles and data is. Anyway, I can't get it to boot everytime with any of the disks connected. I tried another re-install, but still no dice.

I have a couple of theories:

1. Changing over to GPT has screwed things up. Regardless, my old version of Ghost won't work anymore with GPT, which sucks.

2. The disk alignment is causing problems switching to 4096 on just the boot drive? Doesn't seem likely.

3. Because the 3 other drives were authored using Windows Ultimate, Windows Pro can't handle it. (This better not be the case.)

What do you guys think?
I'll be home in a half hour. I'll help then, but this is an odd issue. We should. Be able to to it still fix it though wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Indilinx;15617223 
thanks for the guide. I was hesitant on SSDs until i saw a deal for the M4 ($104) so i jumped on it and used this guide to set things up. im extremely happy with the purchase. thank you once again!

Glad it helped biggrin.gif
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Breenemeister, do you have the UEFI set to boot from windows boot manger?
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Originally Posted by breenemeister;15617181 
Having serious issues with the new mobo/chip and installing Windows 7 Pro. Since I have a new mobo, I'm installing a new Windows 7 Pro OEM and my wife will be getting Ultimat that I had on the other motherboard. Followed the guide with setup in diskpart, etc. Looks just like your screenshots. However, after installing drivers and what not, I shutdown, reconnect the other 3 drives and then Windows won't boot. The Windows logo pops, then I get two runs of the white bar at the bottom showing Windows in Loading Files, then just black screen with cursor in the upper lefthand corner. I tried doing a repair with the disk, but Windows says it can't fix it due to a missing driver. If I disconnect the other three drives, Windows boots fine. In device manager, there is one unkown device, but I can't figure out what it is. However, it's hosing everything up apparently. I tried just connecting different drives and was able to get it to boot normally once with all but my WD Caviar Black 1TB. Unfortunately, that's the only drive that really matters as that is where the user profiles and data is. Anyway, I can't get it to boot everytime with any of the disks connected. I tried another re-install, but still no dice.

I have a couple of theories:

1. Changing over to GPT has screwed things up. Regardless, my old version of Ghost won't work anymore with GPT, which sucks.

2. The disk alignment is causing problems switching to 4096 on just the boot drive? Doesn't seem likely.

3. Because the 3 other drives were authored using Windows Ultimate, Windows Pro can't handle it. (This better not be the case.)

What do you guys think?

I take it from the post that you installed win7 (ie you didn't image it from a backup)? MBR imaged to a GPT disk can be a problem. You need to reset the disk ID, and this can cause problems.

Ghost 15 will work for back-up, just the internal crash restore (i think it's called lights out?) won't work on a GPT disk, as I don't think you can gets its entry into the bootloader, and even if you do, it won't see the 3 partitions necessary to complete an entire "crashed disk' restore. That's the problem I had indicated with using MBR disk programs with GPT. Maybe in Ghost 16. Although it may be possible to Image the entire disk in one shot, and restore an image. I don't know if Nortons does this with GPT... I know Acronis has problems with GPT.

If I were to take a wild stab... Does one of your disks contain the "old" BCD files from the MBR?

When you attach the other drives, are you sure that your UEFI is still booting from the Boot Manager, and not picking up one of the newly attached drives. Does one of your "old" drives contain your old OS installation? Sometimes a UEFI can be too smart for its own good, and it will find the old OS, and not know what to do. You can ensure this does not happen, by making sure you have disabled all of the newly attached Disks in your Boot device list in the UEFI. GPT won't boot from a disk anyway, only the boot manager.

Another though... you didn't use Ghost to replace the EFI (ESP) partiton? This is where the GPT bootloader is located. From what you describe, the UEFI is hanging while trying to pass controll to the OS. You really shouldn't be seeing the Windows "white bars" loading files. It sounds like you are still booting from the install disk, or I think you see the same thing from Ghosts crash recovery, which should not be loading.

I know.. just a lot of information for troubleshooting with no real answer.
Edited by xandypx - 11/8/11 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster;15617302 
Breenemeister, do you have the UEFI set to boot from windows boot manger?
Yes, I don't think it will boot at all otherwise.
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Originally Posted by xandypx;15617445 
I take it from the post that you installed win7 (ie you didn't image it from a backup)? MBR imaged to a GPT disk can be a problem. You need to reset the disk ID, and this can cause problems.

Ghost 15 will work for back-up, just the internal crash restore (i think it's called lights out?) won't work on a GPT disk, as I don't think you can gets its entry into the bootloader, and even if you do, it won't see the 3 partitions necessary to complete an entire "crashed disk' restore. That's the problem I had indicated with using MBR disk programs with GPT. Maybe in Ghost 16. Although it may be possible to Image the entire disk in one shot, and restore an image. I don't know if Nortons does this with GPT... I know Acronis has problems with GPT.

If I were to take a wild stab... Does one of your disks contain the "old" BCD files from the MBR?

When you attach the other drives, are you sure that your UEFI is still booting from the Boot Manager, and not picking up one of the newly attached drives. Does one of your "old" drives contain your old OS installation? Sometimes a UEFI can be too smart for its own good, and it will find the old OS, and not know what to do. You can ensure this does not happen, by making sure you have disabled all of the newly attached Disks in your Boot device list in the UEFI. GPT won't boot from a disk anyway, only the boot manager.

Another though... you didn't use Ghost to replace the EFI (ESP) partiton? This is where the GPT bootloader is located. From what you describe, the UEFI is hanging while trying to pass controll to the OS. You really shouldn't be seeing the Windows "white bars" loading files. It sounds like you are still booting from the install disk, or I think you see the same thing from Ghosts crash recovery, which should not be loading.

I know.. just a lot of information for troubleshooting with no real answer.

I haven't used ghost on this yet. My version of ghost is 2003, and I run it from a thumb drive, so it will never work. The only windows installation I have is on the ssd that I wipe and installed to. I do have my old user folders on one of the disks, but I can't see that being the problem. The three non os disks were created with an mbr system. How could I tell if they had bcd files from the mbr?

I may start over tonight and go for an mbr system. I don't see myself ever booting from a 3 tb disk. I hope I can make it work.
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Have you tried plugging in 1 drive at a time? And have you disabled the option to boot from the disks in UEFI....double check each time you boot up
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wow, thanks for the great thread! rated 5 stars and repped sir!
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wow, thanks for the great thread! rated 5 stars and repped sir!

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I agree, this thread and the collaborator (of the thread) are aweomes!!!!!
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