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Hi Sean, I'm looking to build a new computer this weekend. It will be an i7-2600k, p8z68-v Pro Gen3, OCZ 120GB Vertex 3.

Do I skip the first 11 steps and start at this one, Booting, partitioning and alignment of GPT for Windows and UEFI: ?
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Yep, if your not using a USB that is.
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I'm about to build two identical rigs, both in RAID 0. Imaging software would work with that right? Since it'll be the same stuff.

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I'm about to build two identical rigs, both in RAID 0. Imaging software would work with that right? Since it'll be the same stuff.


Yes as long as the hardware is the same it should work. I use the built in system imager in windows 7 pro.

If you are using GPT disks then you should be using windows 7 pro or ultimate imo. If you are using MBR disks then most cloning software should work for you. I know for sure Easus ToDo Back up supports RAID 0. Just a heads up. smile.gif
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So, I'm thinking of getting a 64gb M4 and I already have an up to date image from Windows own imaging feature of my C drive. It consists of W7 Pro and installed apps configured to my liking. Nothing else on the C drive partition.

Is their any/much downside to just installing that image onto the SSD ? Then doing some of the tweaks in your guide? I want to have a snappy system but it doesn't need to be so quick that only software apps can tell the difference. Thanks and here's another Rep for all of your hard work....much appreciated wink.gif
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So, I'm thinking of getting a 64gb M4 and I already have an up to date image from Windows own imaging feature of my C drive. It consists of W7 Pro and installed apps configured to my liking. Nothing else on the C drive partition.

Is their any/much downside to just installing that image onto the SSD ? Then doing some of the tweaks in your guide? I want to have a snappy system but it doesn't need to be so quick that only software apps can tell the difference. Thanks and here's another Rep for all of your hard work....much appreciated wink.gif

Yeah, you can, no downside really. Just go through all the steps and make sure defrag is disabled on the SSD! smile.gif
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I will try this tonight, thanks.

It seems that no matter what I do, the Caviar Black doesn't want to work with my system at all. I've spent a lot of time reinstalling Windows. I've reformatted the boot drive with the gpt settings at the top of this guide to no avail. I've checked BIOS on each reboot and made sure that the Caviar Black is disabled for booting. I can plug other drives in, but as soon as I plug in the WD Caviar Black (where all my data is by the way) Windows fails to boot. I can put the Windows disk in and attempt to repair and I get a message that it can't be repaired. I unplug the Caviar Black and then it boots fine. I even tried reinstalling Windows on the SSD while the Caviar Black was attached just to check. During the first reboot of the installation, it boots with an error and recommends trying again with the disk. Try a repair and it's unrepairable, remove the Caviar Black and it works fine. This doesn't make any sense to me. There is one partition on that drive that's formatted to FAT32. I had reserved it for Linux. Maybe the UEFI is seeing that one partition and thinking it's got the boot info? I'm going to try formatting it to something else in diskpart and see what happens. I'll report back. Hey typing this out helped me realize a potential problem....go figure.

EDIT: Reformatted that partition to NTFS. Didn't work. When Windows is loading, I still get two quick bars of "Windows is loading files" then a black screen with blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner. I guess I'm going to have to put that freaking drive into another PC, copy all the data, then reformat it to see if that makes a difference. It better, I'm going to be really mad if I go to all that trouble and the disk still hoses the system....gunner.gif
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It seems that no matter what I do, the Caviar Black doesn't want to work with my system at all. I've spent a lot of time reinstalling Windows. I've reformatted the boot drive with the gpt settings at the top of this guide to no avail. I've checked BIOS on each reboot and made sure that the Caviar Black is disabled for booting. I can plug other drives in, but as soon as I plug in the WD Caviar Black (where all my data is by the way) Windows fails to boot. I can put the Windows disk in and attempt to repair and I get a message that it can't be repaired. I unplug the Caviar Black and then it boots fine. I even tried reinstalling Windows on the SSD while the Caviar Black was attached just to check. During the first reboot of the installation, it boots with an error and recommends trying again with the disk. Try a repair and it's unrepairable, remove the Caviar Black and it works fine. This doesn't make any sense to me. There is one partition on that drive that's formatted to FAT32. I had reserved it for Linux. Maybe the UEFI is seeing that one partition and thinking it's got the boot info? I'm going to try formatting it to something else in diskpart and see what happens. I'll report back. Hey typing this out helped me realize a potential problem....go figure.
EDIT: Reformatted that partition to NTFS. Didn't work. When Windows is loading, I still get two quick bars of "Windows is loading files" then a black screen with blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner. I guess I'm going to have to put that freaking drive into another PC, copy all the data, then reformat it to see if that makes a difference. It better, I'm going to be really mad if I go to all that trouble and the disk still hoses the system....gunner.gif

Time to opt for the warranty smile.gif
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I will try this tonight, thanks.

It seems that no matter what I do, the Caviar Black doesn't want to work with my system at all. I've spent a lot of time reinstalling Windows. I've reformatted the boot drive with the gpt settings at the top of this guide to no avail. I've checked BIOS on each reboot and made sure that the Caviar Black is disabled for booting. I can plug other drives in, but as soon as I plug in the WD Caviar Black (where all my data is by the way) Windows fails to boot. I can put the Windows disk in and attempt to repair and I get a message that it can't be repaired. I unplug the Caviar Black and then it boots fine. I even tried reinstalling Windows on the SSD while the Caviar Black was attached just to check. During the first reboot of the installation, it boots with an error and recommends trying again with the disk. Try a repair and it's unrepairable, remove the Caviar Black and it works fine. This doesn't make any sense to me. There is one partition on that drive that's formatted to FAT32. I had reserved it for Linux. Maybe the UEFI is seeing that one partition and thinking it's got the boot info? I'm going to try formatting it to something else in diskpart and see what happens. I'll report back. Hey typing this out helped me realize a potential problem....go figure.

EDIT: Reformatted that partition to NTFS. Didn't work. When Windows is loading, I still get two quick bars of "Windows is loading files" then a black screen with blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner. I guess I'm going to have to put that freaking drive into another PC, copy all the data, then reformat it to see if that makes a difference. It better, I'm going to be really mad if I go to all that trouble and the disk still hoses the system....gunner.gif

Try turning "Hot swapping" on for the SATA connector you are using for the WD Black. Boot to windows on your SSD installation without the Black attached. Once in windows, attach the Black to the SATA port. See what happens. I suspect that the FAT 32 partition you have (now NTFS, but that doesn't matter) is marked as an MBR record, and that is what is causing your problem. You can not have GPT and MBR records on drives attached to the same system under GPT. there was an earlier post by someone else having the same problem. using this methold, you may be able to transfer the data off this drive to another, but I think you are going to need to destroy (delete) the partition that you created for Linux anyway you cut it.
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Alternatively, since you have reformatted that partition and there is nothing there anyway... You can try to just delete the partition from the WD Black, leaving it as unallocated space. this should destroy the MBR record for the partition, and possibly not confuse the UEFI. As I mentioned in an earlier post, sometimes the UEFI can be too smart for its own good, and it finds things that you don't intend it to find. if this works, in disk management, you can reclaim the space in a different partition on the Black, by extending an existing partiton with the unallocated space.
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Try turning "Hot swapping" on for the SATA connector you are using for the WD Black. Boot to windows on your SSD installation without the Black attached. Once in windows, attach the Black to the SATA port. See what happens. I suspect that the FAT 32 partition you have (now NTFS, but that doesn't matter) is marked as an MBR record, and that is what is causing your problem. You can not have GPT and MBR records on drives attached to the same system under GPT. there was an earlier post by someone else having the same problem. using this methold, you may be able to transfer the data off this drive to another, but I think you are going to need to destroy (delete) the partition that you created for Linux anyway you cut it.
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Alternatively, since you have reformatted that partition and there is nothing there anyway... You can try to just delete the partition from the WD Black, leaving it as unallocated space. this should destroy the MBR record for the partition, and possibly not confuse the UEFI. As I mentioned in an earlier post, sometimes the UEFI can be too smart for its own good, and it finds things that you don't intend it to find. if this works, in disk management, you can reclaim the space in a different partition on the Black, by extending an existing partiton with the unallocated space.

Man, great minds think alike. After I posted last night, I went in, enabled hot swapping and plugged the drive in after windows booted. I copied all of my data over to my Raptor. Thanks for the affirmation of my actions. +rep In disk management, the drive looked no different than any other drive I have attached. I think I'll try deleting that one partition like you mentioned, but I never booted from that drive as far as I can remember. Aren't there applications out there that you can use to view/modify MBRs without wiping out whole disks? Regardless, at this point, all the data is copied, so I could just nuke the disk and start over. It's less than 100GBs of data, so the copying isn't too bad.
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