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agreed. very nice work here. this is just what I needed. finally someone breaks it down step by step. this must have taken forever to do and I for one truly appreciate your efforts. you are what OCN is all about bro. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Crabby654;15532630 
Man I really am struggling to find information on the benefits of 4096 alignment. As long as the alignment is divisible by 512 then it will be properly aligned. So a 4096 alignment will not hurt anything in terms of it being correct. Thats about all I can find to be totally honest with all the googling ><<br />
And as you pointed out Sean you gained a year with SSD Life but no I/O loss or gain. So the question remains other than possibly pro-longing the lifespan of your SSD, what else is the benefit?

I still am going to get to the answer, just not atm, maybe when I get a clear answer or free time to find out lol

We need others to replicate my result though, like you said it may be a glitch.
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Excellent guide Sean! thumb.gif

+Rep, and keep up the good work my friend! smile.gif

Thanks. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by danielwiley;15532806 
agreed. very nice work here. this is just what I needed. finally someone breaks it down step by step. this must have taken forever to do and I for one truly appreciate your efforts. you are what OCN is all about bro. Thanks.

Thanks, I told you I was the man when it comes to this stuff rolleyes.gif

And I did most of it from an iTouch lol

I spent 8+ hours creating the guide I have learned a ton in a very short amount of time. My thoughts are getting cloudy, I need a break redface.gif

Don't forget to give me suggestions on things to add smile.gif
post #83 of 5385
Well for anyone subbed for 4096 alignment information, all the props to BradleyW for making it a bit more clear with this quote!
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Ok it's about time we got this sorted.

1. You don't need to run AHCI when using a SSD. By this, i mean you can run hdd's in raid with a SSD on it's own. Whichever drives are not selected as raid will run in ahci although the bios reports raid mode.

2. 4096 is the correct allication size for newer storage devices. Why?
A hard drive or SSD is a chunk of free space (Let's talk in digital terms). So this free space needs to be devided into segments. By setting 1024, 1024 small little chunks can be help within a segment. By setting 4096, you can hold over 3072 more chunks per segment.

3. So yeah....why is this better?
Firstly we need to look at how information is stored and read on the hard drive. Lets take a file. It's saved as small chunks that fit into a segment. If you use 1024 allication size and the file will need 2000 chunks, the file will become split up. So the first 1024 chunks will be stored in the 1st segment whilst the remaining is stored into the next segment. Because the file is devided, it takes longer for the hdd, ssd and/or the OS to read/write the file. The file that requires 2000 chunks of a segment can fit into a 4096 segment. The file and information does not become scattered around. Of course, no matter what you do, chunks will become split up over time as you add and delete things on the computer and gaps in the stucture appear and get filled by new files. The new files just become scattered to fill the gaps between the empty chunks that appear from previous files becoming deleted by software or the user.

4. Why not use an allication size higher than 4096?
Because if the units that hold tiny segments become too large of an open space, it will take the OS and the hardware far too long to find and interpiete the information. It will also reduce the amount of formatted free space avialable to the OS and the user.

Hope this helps!
post #84 of 5385
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Originally Posted by Crabby654;15533153 
Well for anyone subbed for 4096 alignment information, all the props to BradleyW for making it a bit more clear with this quote!

Beat you to it wink.gif
post #85 of 5385
/fist!...eer /shakefist @you

Now that its a bit more clear, I am kind of wanting to do it to my system now.
post #86 of 5385
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How to: Move system Reserve partition from secondary drive to the C: drive:

  1. Download EasyBCD. It is free for non-commercial use, just click the "Download free for limited, non-commercial use" link.
  2. After downloading, start EasyBCD. Select the Tool from the "toolbox" for "BCD Deployment."
  3. Make sure that your SSD is selected in the upper box (the partition on the SSD).
  4. Click the Radio button for "Install the Vista/Win7 bootloader to the MBR"
  5. Click "Write MBR". (This will make a copy of your current BCD onto your SSD.)
  6. Before exiting, click the "View settings" tool, and make sure the Entry shows drive C:\ as the default windows 7 entry. If it does, you're done.
  7. Shut windows down, reboot, and then in disk management youcan delete the 100mb partition from your HDD, and then extend the other partition on the drive to use the space.
post #87 of 5385
good to know, i will be formatting as 4k, referencing this guide when i get my new rig all nice and ready for birth biggrin.gif.

Sean, again, thanks for the great guide!
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Great guide Sean. And to elaborate on this part:
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Turn off Unused Windows 7 Features:
1.) Click Start > Control Panel > Programs > Programs and Features
2.) Click the Turn Windows features on or off from the left pane.
3.) Now uncheck all the features that you don't use in Windows 7 [ex. "Games"], click OK, and then restart the system for the changes to take effect.

Ok, so basically this is to uninstall parts of windows that you don't use, for example I don't use IE9, Media Features, Tablet PC Components, and Windows Gadget Platform so I uncheck those and it uninstalls them.

You should look up what they are via google or similar and see what you need.
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Just noticed this last night while reformatting and going through your guide: "Windows Search" is also located in there. Even if you turn it off via "services.msc" and "Administrative Services" in the Control Panel....when you click on the Windows icon you can still type in whatever you want to search for (at least that's how it was for me). So, if you want it completely removed, just un-check the box in what you listed above.

I love how Microsoft makes completely turning off unwanted things a pain sometimes. smile.gif

lol Thinks for the tip wink.gif
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Glad i could help you all on the 4096 Allication size question.
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Ok, so basically this is to uninstall parts of windows that you don't use, for example I don't use IE9, Media Features, Tablet PC Components, and Windows Gadget Platform so I uncheck those and it uninstalls them.

You should look up what they are via google or similar and see what you need.

lol Thinks for the tip wink.gif
You are most welcome. smile.gif
    
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