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Also to take into consideration is that the nexus only has a 5 megapixel camera where as the s2 has a 8 megapixel camera. If anything you should wait for the HTC Rezound. It has beats audio intergration a better 8 mp camera and a 1.5 ghz processor
   
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Originally Posted by aznofazns View Post
Both phones are great choices and have their pros and cons.

But the Galaxy Nexus' high price tag, PenTile display, outdated and weak GPU, non-expandable memory, and supposedly inferior battery life turn me off. The GPU especially. Why on earth Samsung stuck a 4 year old SGX540 into their flagship phone baffles me, especially since it has to drive a tons more pixels compared to other phones. The SGS2 and iPhone 4S have far superior GPU's.

I have the Epic 4G Touch (SGS2 on Sprint) and while it's a great phone, the screen is a bit pixelated and I'm not looking forward to waiting for an official ICS release.

Tough choice...
High price tag? It's only about $70-80 more than the Galaxy S2, and same price as most other high end phones, excluding the typical discounts phones get. PenTile display is better than the Galaxy S2's screen because PenTile isn't as awful as people think it is just because of its old screen that was used a few years ago on a different phone. Weak GPU? The GPU is still strong, you act like games require amazing GPUs to perform good.

@Tristin, Galaxy Nexus has a better camera, mp is only a gimmick that details the size you can print out the picture, which average use doesn't require. Only the sensor and shutter matter, which Galaxy Nexus has better.
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I know that a lot of you are saying that we won't notice some of the disadvantages the nexus has compared to other phones. And that very well may be the case, we don't know yet. However, purely specs wise, the phone seems to be a bit of a compromise. And I don't know how you can argue against that. "Ohh, we'll start offering phones with 32GB onboard! But there's no microSD slot." "And we'll include this incredible display! But it's pentile, and has an outdated GPU powering it." "We'll feature all these improvements to how you take photos! But we'll take a step back in only having a 5MP camera."
The only thing that isn't a comprimise is the OS. But everyone has been hyping that so much. How long do you think it will take for CyanogenMod to get ICS working? A couple days? A week? And how long does CyanogenMod support phones? Let's see. Ohh, the Motorola Cliq, released almost two years ago, is still supported.

I'm not buying it, to be honest. I'm getting the S II (where the only compromise is the lower resolution screen), or waiting for a phone where I don't have to make so many compromises.
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post #54 of 71
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High price tag? It's only about $70-80 more than the Galaxy S2, and same price as most other high end phones, excluding the typical discounts phones get. PenTile display is better than the Galaxy S2's screen because PenTile isn't as awful as people think it is just because of its old screen that was used a few years ago on a different phone. Weak GPU? The GPU is still strong, you act like games require amazing GPUs to perform good.

@Tristin, Galaxy Nexus has a better camera, mp is only a gimmick that details the size you can print out the picture, which average use doesn't require. Only the sensor and shutter matter, which Galaxy Nexus has better.
Then GPU critique is sort of amusing... What's next, benchmarking of Angry Birds..?

Also thank you for the point about the camera. I find it annoying when people judge based on quantity over quality.

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I don't see how the GPU is unimportant. If the most graphically intensive app you needed to run on your $280 phone was Angry Birds, manufacturers would be sticking 5-6 year old GPU's in their high end phones still. What about the next generation of games and other graphically intensive apps for smartphones? There's a reason Apple went with the SGX543MP2, it's one of the fastest available.

That's not to say you're "wrong" for not needing a faster GPU, but that reason alone doesn't justify the poor GPU choice in the Galaxy Nexus, which is supposed to be Google's latest and greatest.

Regarding the screen, you may be right. Pentile probably isn't going to be a dealbreaker here. It probably isn't even noticeable.

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I know that a lot of you are saying that we won't notice some of the disadvantages the nexus has compared to other phones. And that very well may be the case, we don't know yet. However, purely specs wise, the phone seems to be a bit of a compromise. And I don't know how you can argue against that. "Ohh, we'll start offering phones with 32GB onboard! But there's no microSD slot." "And we'll include this incredible display! But it's pentile, and has an outdated GPU powering it." "We'll feature all these improvements to how you take photos! But we'll take a step back in only having a 5MP camera."
The only thing that isn't a comprimise is the OS. But everyone has been hyping that so much. How long do you think it will take for CyanogenMod to get ICS working? A couple days? A week? And how long does CyanogenMod support phones? Let's see. Ohh, the Motorola Cliq, released almost two years ago, is still supported.

I'm not buying it, to be honest. I'm getting the S II (where the only compromise is the lower resolution screen), or waiting for a phone where I don't have to make so many compromises.
I mostly agree with you here. The 5MP camera doesn't bother me very much, though, because ultimately you're probably not going to need more pixels than that. 5MP works out to be around 2560x1600. Optics are going to be more important at this point. 'Nuff said.
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I don't see how the GPU is unimportant. If the most graphically intensive app you needed to run on your $280 phone was Angry Birds, manufacturers would be sticking 5-6 year old GPU's in their high end phones still. What about the next generation of games and other graphically intensive apps for smartphones? There's a reason Apple went with the SGX543MP2, it's one of the fastest available.

That's not to say you're "wrong" for not needing a faster GPU, but that reason alone doesn't justify the poor GPU choice in the Galaxy Nexus, which is supposed to be Google's latest and greatest.

Regarding the screen, you may be right. Pentile probably isn't going to be a dealbreaker here. It probably isn't even noticeable.
I think it depends on what you use your phone for. Most people I know don't get a phone for it's GPU, in fact, no one I know does. I don't know anyone that really cares about the games, tbh.

Do you know what the most popular Android paid game is? Cut the rope, second is UNO, third is Fruit Ninja. O_______o

Most popular free game? Angry Birds (surprise, surprise). How long has Angry Birds been around? Quite a long time. Now, next generation of graphically intense games? I doubt that is any concern of Google or 98% of consumers, they will keep on playing their 2D games and that's just how it is.

I use my phone for texting/email/social networking/web browsing/, not gaming, like most people. Google made their phone knowing that.

I do like gaming, and I bought a Nintendo 3DS for that. I suggest, if GPU on a phone is very important, a person is better to invest in a system dedicated for gaming. ^____^
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That's funny because for one, it won't have 1.8ghz quad core, at most a 1.2ghz, 1.5ghz if we're lucky quad core. It won't have 2gb of ram, a phone only needs 1gb. It'll probably be 16gb internal, expandable to 32gb with a sd card. It will probably be Super AMOLED Plus at 720p with a 4.65 inch screen. That post looks like nothing more than a troll post since Samsung hasn't verified anything. Look at the Galaxy Nexus spec leak, it said it would have 1.5ghz Exynos Super AMOLED plus and SD card expandable.
DUDE, I am not here to argue nor attack your post.. You speaking your own opinion.

wait and see, in 2012 Samsung announcement event, and On the stage, Sammy CEO will take the Drop Dead Gorgeous SGSIII out of the MAGICAL hat ..Sammy CEO display a Drop Dead Gorgeous phone in hands & say it runs a beautiful ICS and very SUPERIOR specs unlike others nor GNEX.
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I would get either the galaxy s2 or the my touch 4g slide
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Then GPU critique is sort of amusing... What's next, benchmarking of Angry Birds..?

Also thank you for the point about the camera. I find it annoying when people judge based on quantity over quality.

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
gpu is very important aspect of the phone imo, i came from a motorola milestone with Cortex A8 overclocked at 1.2Ghz with SGX 530 to a Samsung Galaxy S Epic 4G with a Cortex A8 1Ghz with SGX 540 and the difference is massive in user experience


also there is many titles that push the GPU of android phones










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cons:

Besides 800x480 the gs2 is from samsung. If you take a look @ Cyanogen mod for last years flagship Galaxys, yes it's supported, no it's not stable (in my experience)

I don't know about all the galaxys, but i know mine and others didn't even get an update past froyo.

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I know that a lot of you are saying that we won't notice some of the disadvantages the nexus has compared to other phones. And that very well may be the case, we don't know yet. However, purely specs wise, the phone seems to be a bit of a compromise. And I don't know how you can argue against that. "Ohh, we'll start offering phones with 32GB onboard! But there's no microSD slot." "And we'll include this incredible display! But it's pentile, and has an outdated GPU powering it." "We'll feature all these improvements to how you take photos! But we'll take a step back in only having a 5MP camera."
The only thing that isn't a comprimise is the OS. But everyone has been hyping that so much. How long do you think it will take for CyanogenMod to get ICS working? A couple days? A week? And how long does CyanogenMod support phones? Let's see. Ohh, the Motorola Cliq, released almost two years ago, is still supported.

I'm not buying it, to be honest. I'm getting the S II (where the only compromise is the lower resolution screen), or waiting for a phone where I don't have to make so many compromises.

Edited by hellonwheelz - 11/7/11 at 10:52am
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