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Hey guys, so i was thinking of picking up a 4th gtx 470 since they are getting harder to find new (i dont really like buying used). ive searched around and been able to find news articles about it, but havent really seen anything about people trying it. On Nvidias website it says 2-way and 3-way but nothing about 4-way.

So i was just was wondering if they are able too and/or if anyone has tried it?

Oh almost forgot heres a news article by xbit (i believe toms has one too) that i found talking about 4-way gtx 470's

Thanks for the help
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Both the 480 and the 470 are 4-way capable. nVidia drivers only supported Vantage for 4-way back then. They added gaming capability (profiles) starting with 580's. I'm running one, and yep, it works. Quad-SLi (4 GPU's) will pop out in nV CP. There isn't much to gain from a 4th card, but if you want it, here's one. BTW, have you tried unlocking your 465?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162049
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it has to support it because the GTX285 supported it. the only thing is how well it will scale, i really doubt it will be worth the cost for the amount of gain. however a 4th GTX470 for a dedicated PhysX card would be a good gain and free up some speed from your 3way sli.
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Both the 480 and the 470 are 4-way capable. nVidia drivers only supported Vantage for 4-way back then. They added gaming capability (profiles) starting with 580's. I'm running one, and yep, it works. Quad-SLi (4 GPU's) will pop out in nV CP. There isn't much to gain from a 4th card, but if you want it, here's one. BTW, have you tried unlocking your 465?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162049
Ah nice, + rep. Good to hear that it works. Mostly wanted to get another since im not planning on getting a new gpu until the end of 2013 or 2014. What would you say the gains are going from tri to quad ? (if you know)

Ive tried unlocking it once awhile back and it was a no go, although i havent physicly checked to see if it has all the memory chips and all but from what ive read, and looking at the back the pcb its missing the 2 extra memory pieces but for $90 new, pretty good buy for a physx card

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it has to support it because the GTX285 supported it. the only thing is how well it will scale, i really doubt it will be worth the cost for the amount of gain. however a 4th GTX470 for a dedicated PhysX card would be a good gain and free up some speed from your 3way sli.
hmm any idea what the scaling might be going to the 4th card? even though i cant fit the 4th right now, wanted to pick up an extra incase i "needed" the extra horsepower in the future +rep
Edited by DNytAftr - 10/31/11 at 4:49pm
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I haven't bothered with testing much, but as far as I recall, the fourth card added averaged few ten more frames in F.E.A.R at 2048x1536 maxed out with x8 TR SSAA. Then again, that's bit of an unrealistic situation. There're gains to be seen as these cards scale well. However, as to what degree I've to do extensive testing. With each card though, you can add an extra x16 layers of AA. In SLi AA, cards dedicated one on top of each other to render AA only. For example, with 2, you can do SLi x32 CSAA (performance adjusted) or CSQAA (full sampling). Three, x48 times. Basically, each card after the first one is dedicated to render AA only. PhysX performance improved as you'd expect.

3 cards and PhysX



3 cards + 1 PhysX


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I haven't bothered with testing much, but as far as I recall, the fourth card added averaged few ten more frames in F.E.A.R at 2048x1536 maxed out with x8 TR SSAA. Then again, that's bit of an unrealistic situation. There're gains to be seen as these cards scale well. However, as to what degree I've to do extensive testing. With each card though, you can add an extra x16 layers of AA. In SLi AA, cards dedicated one on top of each other to render AA only. For example, with 2, you can do SLi x32 CSAA (performance adjusted) or CSQAA (full sampling). Three, x48 times. Basically, each card after the first one is dedicated to render AA only. PhysX performance improved as you'd expect.

*snip*
Hmm, interesting didnt know that each card adds 16x AA learn something new everyday. Hm... maybe ill just pick up the 4th sometime soon, even if its only a few more fps. if games get more demanding it should help.

In bfbc2 when i went from sli to tri sli i believe my frames went from 60fps to around 85fps. so im guessing the 4th would add prob 15-20fps i would think
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Hmm, interesting didnt know that each card adds 16x AA learn something new everyday. Hm... maybe ill just pick up the 4th sometime soon, even if its only a few more fps. if games get more demanding it should help.

In bfbc2 when i went from sli to tri sli i believe my frames went from 60fps to around 85fps. so im guessing the 4th would add prob 15-20fps i would think
That's assuming scaling works as well as when you added a 3rd card. IMO you will gain 7-10 fps.

Every card you add the scaling becomes worse. Especially when you add a fourth.

Sometimes adding 3 or 4 cards has resulted in negative scaling. So be prepared for very very little gain.
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470s cant be quaded.. only 480 and 580 from the recent and current gen.. sorry man

EDIT: nvm read the article, but still not sure if they can be quaded
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That's assuming scaling works as well as when you added a 3rd card. IMO you will gain 7-10 fps.

Every card you add the scaling becomes worse. Especially when you add a fourth.
Yep.



OP, thought about putting them under water? It'll be tough to cool the top and bottom cards unless you're already doing something about it. Expect 90C's.
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I was under the impression that only 480/580s could do 4-way, since I know for a fact that the 570 maxes out at 3-way...

I'll echo Johnny Doe. You'd probably see greater gains from spending the money on a watercooling kit for the 3 you have and overclocking them significantly.
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