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I am sure this has been asked before but I cant seem to find it via search option.

I am a day or two away from purchasing my new computer setup:
Corsair 800D
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z
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2x GTX 580s for SLi
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*RAM: I am undecided as I wanted to get either Corsair Vengeance 8GB or G.Skill Ripjaw X RAM but reading the Qualified Vendor list it only seems to support regular Ripjaw and Corsair RAM. If anyone owns this board and wants to give me some input or suggestions it will be greatly appreciated.


Alright now to my Water Cooling...

The 800D only has a place for one 360 rad and after reading several posts here and on other sites I dont think a single 360 would be enough to cool the cpu and the 580s in sli. I have seen some nice mods to the case to fit a second 240 rad* however I lack the equipment and experience to do something like that. So my idea is to place a Kuhler 920 on the back fan for the cpu and then make a single loop with a 360 rad for the 580s. I want to OC my cpu to about 4.6 maybe 4.8 Ghz and plan on tinkering with the 580s to see what I can get out of them. I believe there is enough room in the case to configure the 360 in a Push/Pull configuration.

*240 rad mod for 800D:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Ovlo1uwk0&feature=relmfu[/ame]

Kuhler 920 for CPU and a 360(Push/Pull?) rad for 580 SLi going to do what I want it to do or should I really be looking at something else for this situation? I am trying to OC and get decent temps, they dont have to be the best but they really do have to beat Air Cooling for it to really be worth it to me.

Last few questions I have for this is about best products to get the job done as far as the water cooling is concerned. I have heard great things about XSPC RX360 but I am unsure of the best fans I can get to keep it going good. Also I need advice on the Pump and I am confused about tubing. Is there a recommended standard on tubing?
    
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Your purchases looks very similar to my current build. You can look at my thread ideas of what I am attempting to do, parts I purchased... and the mods I've done:

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/1152008-build-log-my-first-attempt-computer.html

Many of the items I purchased are from research of what others have done and used.

EDIT: This thread was also helpful to me.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/947485-official-asus-maximus-iv-extreme-owners.html

Seems like ripjaw's are what most are using for ram, and seems to work well with the mive boards. I went with the dominators, just in case I want to use the EK dominator water block.
Edited by erayser - 10/31/11 at 5:17pm
    
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First, yes you can fit push pull fans on a XSPC 360 rad in the top. I have a 700D and have that config. Only issue is that I can only use 5 fans and there was not enough room for the 6th above the mobo mosfets because that rad is so thick. If you go with AP-15's at 1800 RPM that rad will dissipate 590 watts. That i7 and dual 580's have a total TDP of 583 watts so without overclock you are good. It is not that hard of mod to add the 240 but if you are not up to it, you can simply add a single 120 mm rad in the bottom and it should cover your rig plus overclock as it should allow you to dissipate ~740 total.
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Originally Posted by erayser;15524775 
Your purchases looks very similar to my current build. You can look at my thread ideas of what I am attempting to do, parts I purchased... and the mods I've done:

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/1152008-build-log-my-first-attempt-computer.html

Many of the items I purchased are from research of what others have done and used.

EDIT: This thread was also helpful to me.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/947485-official-asus-maximus-iv-extreme-owners.html

Seems like ripjaw's are what most are using for ram, and seems to work well with the mive boards. I went with the dominators, just in case I want to use the EK dominator water block.

That is an awesome setup you have going, I wish I had ability to do something like that.

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Originally Posted by RatDog;15526391 
First, yes you can fit push pull fans on a XSPC 360 rad in the top. I have a 700D and have that config. Only issue is that I can only use 5 fans and there was not enough room for the 6th above the mobo mosfets because that rad is so thick. If you go with AP-15's at 1800 RPM that rad will dissipate 590 watts. That i7 and dual 580's have a total TDP of 583 watts so without overclock you are good. It is not that hard of mod to add the 240 but if you are not up to it, you can simply add a single 120 mm rad in the bottom and it should cover your rig plus overclock as it should allow you to dissipate ~740 total.

I understand the mods are fairly simple and I have watched enough videos on how to get it all done. I lack the ability to get my hands on some power tools at this moment, active duty military and I live in the barracks. I have been asking around but cant seem to find anyone that would have the right tools for me to get the mod done. I also have very little experience with the tools needed.

Is there a place I can buy the case pre-modded for what I want? I have seen a few 800D that have the side panel dual fan mod but nothing that is modded for an extra 240 rad. If I added the single 120 rad in the bottom with the overclocking I want to do my loop would be:
RES -> Pump -> 120 RAD -> 360 RAD -> CPU -> GPU -> RES?
or
RES -> Pump -> 120 RAD -> CPU -> 360 RAD -> GPU -> RES?
    
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Originally Posted by ventacon;15526912 
I understand the mods are fairly simple and I have watched enough videos on how to get it all done. I lack the ability to get my hands on some power tools at this moment, active duty military and I live in the barracks. I have been asking around but cant seem to find anyone that would have the right tools for me to get the mod done. I also have very little experience with the tools needed.

Is there a place I can buy the case pre-modded for what I want? I have seen a few 800D that have the side panel dual fan mod but nothing that is modded for an extra 240 rad. If I added the single 120 rad in the bottom with the overclocking I want to do my loop would be:
RES -> Pump -> 120 RAD -> 360 RAD -> CPU -> GPU -> RES?
or
RES -> Pump -> 120 RAD -> CPU -> 360 RAD -> GPU -> RES?

On the video you referenced... the guy used a grinding tool to remove 2 rivets. I didn't have thin body dremel like he had, so I used a small chisel and the rivet popped out cleaner than with a drill bit. If I known that earlier, I would have popped all the rivets out with a chisel. Some things you can do without a power tool.wink.gif

The only issue I see is cutting case for the fans. You would need a dremel or jigsaw to do that mod.

As for the loop order, it doesn't matter what order you do. The 2nd option looks to be the cleaner loop visually when I picture how it would look like in the case in my mind.
    
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Originally Posted by erayser;15527429 
On the video you referenced... the guy used a grinding tool to remove 2 rivets. I didn't have thin body dremel like he had, so I used a small chisel and the rivet popped out cleaner than with a drill bit. If I known that earlier, I would have popped all the rivets out with a chisel. Some things you can do without a power tool.wink.gif

The only issue I see is cutting case for the fans. You would need a dremel or jigsaw to do that mod.

As for the loop order, it doesn't matter what order you do. The 2nd option looks to be the cleaner loop visually when I picture how it would look like in the case in my mind.

I could get a chisel without issue to pop the rivets if its going to be as easy as you say. Getting a dremel would be pretty easy as well but I really dont want to spend $50+ on a tool I wont use but one time. I guess I will just have to look into it more and see what I can come up with, with a dremel I should be able to cut out the bottom of the case to fit the 240 rad on the bottom right?

Now if I do get a chance to mod the case to fit a 240 rad in the bottom, that should be enough to cool everything. Would I have to buy a fan controller or could I get away with not having one?
    
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This guy built a hell of a system HERE maybe if you look at what he has done you can see something you would like to do
And he is a very nice guy you can pm him ask him how he did things smile.gif nothing like asking someone who has done it before
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I understand the mods are fairly simple and I have watched enough videos on how to get it all done. I lack the ability to get my hands on some power tools at this moment, active duty military and I live in the barracks. I have been asking around but cant seem to find anyone that would have the right tools for me to get the mod done. I also have very little experience with the tools needed.

Is there a place I can buy the case pre-modded for what I want? I have seen a few 800D that have the side panel dual fan mod but nothing that is modded for an extra 240 rad. If I added the single 120 rad in the bottom with the overclocking I want to do my loop would be:
RES -> Pump -> 120 RAD -> 360 RAD -> CPU -> GPU -> RES?
or
RES -> Pump -> 120 RAD -> CPU -> 360 RAD -> GPU -> RES?

Here you can see my old setup before I swapped that top mounted swiftech 360 for the XSPC 360.

picture.php?albumid=3260&pictureid=20067

The loop goes pump->120rad->GPU->CPU->360rad->res->pump No case modding required and would easily cool your SLI set up. This was on an i7 870 and GTX 470 that run hotter than what you are proposing.
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Originally Posted by Los Hog;15530073 
This guy built a hell of a system HERE maybe if you look at what he has done you can see something you would like to do
And he is a very nice guy you can pm him ask him how he did things smile.gif nothing like asking someone who has done it before

Thats a really nice setup he has going and looks clean, I am just unsure of the moding I would have to do to the case.
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Originally Posted by RatDog;15533729 
Here you can see my old setup before I swapped that top mounted swiftech 360 for the XSPC 360.

picture.php?albumid=3260&pictureid=20067

The loop goes pump->120rad->GPU->CPU->360rad->res->pump No case modding required and would easily cool your SLI set up. This was on an i7 870 and GTX 470 that run hotter than what you are proposing.

I really like your setup, no modding for a 240 rad in the bottom makes things simple. I was just afraid I wasnt going to get low enough temps to beat out air cooling with a single 120 on the bottom. More reading I do it seems it will do the trick. I really like the simplicity of it and looks very clean, did you have to drill holes to get that res in there? I was just going to use a bay res to keep it simple but I really like the look of the different tube res people have.

Edit: For GPU cooling would an after market EK block be better than buying the EVGA Hydro cards or dose it really not make enough of a difference to matter?
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Alright another couple of questions...

XSPC RX360 on the top in a Push/Pull configuration, what types of fans should I be looking at? To get a cleaner look I was thinking about a shroud for the top of the case, without modding the top of the case to remove the perforated metal is this still a viable option?

If I go with a single 120 rad on the bottom, should I go with a slim rad and make it push/pull as well or go with a RX120 with a single fan pushing? Would that even fit in the bottom of the case?

I do appreciate all the help.

Edit: Would a fan controller be needed for everything or can I just default the fan speed to medium/high?
    
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