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The Mac Pro isn't terribly overpriced("only" $300ish over) after looking at Lenovo and Dell workstations.
^^^.... surely you can't be serious... You can put together a box to compete with their most powerful for about 1/3 of the price... just because dell and lenovo are overpriced by ~100% doesn't make a mac less overpriced haha.
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I work in the engineering industry.
AutoCAD is atrocious on the Mac, the GUI is bull**** and unintuitive.
If I had to use it 9-5, 5 days a week, I'd shoot myself in the face.

Now what I'm wondering is if the opposite is true for Video and Graphics software on the PC. Are there any industry standard software that is superior on the Mac and just garbage on the PC? I have a few Audio Engineering buddies, and they all use Mac.
In addition, I know lots of graphics designers were on Macs before, did this have anything to do with the PowerPC architecture they used before or software based?
I'm pretty sure there is still graphics and art firms still well entrenched into Macs, wouldn't the demand be there? And if so, the software companies would start to tailor their programs more for the PC which hurts any future chance that apple can step back into this particular area.


Unless they are bleeding money from it, I don't see a good reason to pull the plug. Even if they break even, it seems like being a market leader in this area makes it quite worth it to continue shaping the market.
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post #23 of 221
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Originally Posted by SchmoSalt View Post
What a blow to the prebuilt workstations market. If this turns out people looking for a prebuilt workstation will have to settle for some stupid overpriced Dell or a HP which frankly just sucks. The Mac Pros are certainly the best prebuilt workstations you can buy.
Well, if you're a pro, surely you must be able to build a rig yourself and save some good cash, right?

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Eventually we're not going to have dedicated workstations. Instead, you'll have a moble device (something like and ultrabook) that you dock, allowing it access to faster processing power. Anyway, until that day, we'll need workstations and this move will piss off some old school apple users.
Oh look, another prediction! Do you come from the future? 'cause how can you be so sure?
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Originally Posted by The_Hairy_Yak View Post
^^^.... surely you can't be serious... You can put together a box to compete with their most powerful for about 1/3 of the price... just because dell and lenovo are overpriced by ~100% doesn't make a mac less overpriced haha.
He is serious, and don't call him Shirley.

Sorry, i had to.
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I'm not that surprised. Apple has a history of predicting the future, but making the transition too early. Look at their original imacs that had only USB ports. A couple of years later and it would have been fine, but it was so annoying at the time.

Eventually we're not going to have dedicated workstations. Instead, you'll have a moble device (something like and ultrabook) that you dock, allowing it access to faster processing power. Anyway, until that day, we'll need workstations and this move will piss off some old school apple users.
Nope your prediction is wrong, We will always have desktops because they are ergonomically superior to notebooks even the ones that are really light and easy to carry around. In the world outside the rooms of tech spin doctors and crazed journalist people sit by their computer at work for 7 hours a day.
 
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I work in the engineering industry.
AutoCAD is atrocious on the Mac, the GUI is bull**** and unintuitive.
If I had to use it 9-5, 5 days a week, I'd shoot myself in the face.

Now what I'm wondering is if the opposite is true for Video and Graphics software on the PC. Are there any industry standard software that is superior on the Mac and just garbage on the PC? I have a few Audio Engineering buddies, and they all use Mac.
In addition, I know lots of graphics designers were on Macs before, did this have anything to do with the PowerPC architecture they used before or software based?
I'm pretty sure there is still graphics and art firms still well entrenched into Macs, wouldn't the demand be there? And if so, the software companies would start to tailor their programs more for the PC which hurts any future chance that apple can step back into this particular area.


Unless they are bleeding money from it, I don't see a good reason to pull the plug. Even if they break even, it seems like being a market leader in this area makes it quite worth it to continue shaping the market.
ProTools used to be Mac exclusive, though it has opened up to PC. Logic however is still a Mac exclusive.
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post #27 of 221
So if the ultra high end workstations disappears for mac, what happens then?
I would literally leave my industry if I had to work with a non-optimized version of the software I have been using for years. I can't imagine offices building ultra-high end hackintoshes...
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post #28 of 221
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So if the ultra high end workstations disappears for mac, what happens then?
I would literally leave my industry if I had to work with a non-optimized version of the software I have been using for years. I can't imagine offices building ultra-high end hackintoshes...
No corporation in their right mind would ever build an end-user system.

You'll be switching to a PC with more power under the hood.
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No corporation in their right mind would ever build an end-user system.

You'll be switching to a PC with more power under the hood.
Except, the software (i.e. Logic) doesn't exist in PC land. So no he wouldn't.

Apple workstations rely on institutional volume sales/licenses. Institutions buy whatever they buy. My department has a ton of Apple machines...even though they all have to run VMs as practically all the software is Windows only.
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The $2500 starting price without a monitor probably had something to do with it.
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