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It's called innovation to not mark up your products 300%?

Maybe for Apple!
Lets not forget patenting 10 year old technology is very innovative according to Apple!
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This comes as no surprise. The Mac Pro is a terribly overpriced machine.

A >$10k Mac Pro has a Radeon 5870, dual 6-core Westmere Xeons at 2.66GHz, and 32GB RAM.

My mistake; Apple has lowered their prices quite a bit recently

A $10k Mac Pro has a 5870, dual 6-core Westmere Xeons at 2.93GHz, 64GB RAM, and a 2TB 7200rpm hard drive (still an insane ripoff)
Edited by Usario - 11/1/11 at 2:22pm
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This comes as no surprise. The Mac Pro is a terribly overpriced machine.

A >$10k Mac Pro has a Radeon 5870, dual 6-core Westmere Xeons at 2.66GHz, and 32GB RAM.

My mistake; Apple has lowered their prices quite a bit recently

A $10k Mac Pro has a 5870, dual 6-core Westmere Xeons at 2.93GHz, 64GB RAM, and a 2TB 7200rpm hard drive (still an insane ripoff)
Hey I am not a fan of Apple, but even I know the Mac Book Pro Line is their only product worth buying. Its well built and comparable to most Laptops from other manufacturers. Only way to get a better one is custom built Sager/Clevo/Asus
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Thanks Duckie and others for offering insight into this article. I certainly did contemplate going the Mac Pro route when building my workstation but found the cost and lack of components prohibitive. Granted, I have no issue building and servicing my own machine but I totally understand a company can't do this when they have hundreds or thousands of machines (easily at least).

I think Duckie and others were right in saying that while things may go mobile for most consumers, us graphic people and so on will continue to use the desktops. Regarding my own companies though, the thoughts in this thread do give me some things to think about for sure.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Mac Pro (if anything). Their cases seemed nice but I guess it depends on how important the higher price VS more of a guaranteed tech support or RMA is. Most big companies seem to feel that the tradeoff so to speak is worthwhile. I'm sure just as many places feel otherwise.

Guess we'll see if they will revamp their systems for the 2011 socket.
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Lenovo is incredibly overpriced, minus the Thinkpads which are built like tanks. Dell too, for that matter.
Tankpads are awesome.
I had a R40 back in the days.
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I was talking about computing in general for consumers.


You do realize that docking stations for smartphones and tablets already exist?

Asus Transformer
Asus Transformer Prime
Motorola ATRIX
Asus proto-type Padphone

As ARM becomes more powerful, you will see more of these implementations. If a palm-sized device was capable of providing you will all the processing power needed and you had access to remote disk, why would you need another computer? Wouldn't it just be easier to attach your device to a bigger screen and keyboard?


On the flipside, even Intel noted that docking stations may become more commonplace. Ivy Bridge has an adjustable TDP and one use would be laptops that plug into a docking station to provide more cooling and power.




You don't know much about workstations or how cost effectiveness is calculated then.
And I was talking about computers for companies.

My english may suffer a shortfall here and there but heres how i see it.

Essentially a docking station for a smart phone is a a gutted nettop, the hardware is sufficient for everyday chores and flash games which suits a large number of the population. So theroetically a lot of people should buy such a system. However i doubt they will since they are content with the way things are. But just because companies can vatch up with todays needs doesn't mean that they can catch up with tomorrows needs.

Using your smartphone as a your personal computer has a huge potentioal but that potential lies mainly in the developing world which is adopting wireless commication at faster rate than the developed world.
 
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Mac Pro doesn't make sense but the iMac line is pretty impressive especially with a 6970M option in the 27inch
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Hey I am not a fan of Apple, but even I know the Mac Book Pro Line is their only product worth buying. Its well built and comparable to most Laptops from other manufacturers. Only way to get a better one is custom built Sager/Clevo/Asus
The 27" iMac is a solid product. People always neglect to realize that it has a 27" 2560x1440 IPS display. Those are not cheap. Dell's equivalent is a $1000 monitor. On top of that it has a quadcore i5 and a 6970M. Believe it or not, it is better than any other all in one.
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nobody wants a mac workstation. that is about as far from cost effective as a company can go.

people arent that stupid. im sure most workstations are custom built.
When that model Mac Pro was first introduced back in May of 2010, it had the most powerful CPUs on the market along with 5870s, which were still fresh. Apple had an exclusivity deal with Intel at the time that let Apple have the fastest CPUs in the world for several months. The rest of the workstation world had to wait.

You're looking at a workstation that's over a year old whose price & specs haven't been adjusted because they're dropping it from the store soon.
Edited by Warhaven - 11/1/11 at 3:13pm
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It's a speculative statement--doesn't need verifying. Besides, I have yet to experience a day turnaround with apple hardware support.

Regardless, I don't think this is a situation of unreconciled expenses vs. sales in that demographic. I think it's a sign of a shift in apple's business and marketing strategy so they don't become a stale, out-dated company. Yes, you can sell high-end high-performance systems to businesses, and you can probably get a decent % profit per item, but if you're already stagnated in that market, there really isn't much room to grow. You can potentially generate a lot more revenue by catering to the general public in what we would consider atypical things--for example, with apple's new rumored TV endeavors.

As DuckyHo was mentioning, most end-users don't require a lot of power in computing (I'm no longer talking about business applications here), and I think Apple is realizing that, and also realizing that cloud-based services will become more and more popular, and it would make business-sense for them to start in on products (and marketing) for that demographic--the general public--and de-emphasize their business-application systems. There's far more "easy" money available from the general public than there ever will be in selling even dozens or hundreds of high-end business-application systems to businesses. Plus, it's less-expensive to support these devices instead of business-applications. The time and technical demand for supporting businesses can be very expensive.
Can you please learn to quote. I did not say anything remotely similar to what you edited into my post. Don't infringe on my quotes; thankyouverymuch.
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