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Do any of you realize this was PC's last chance at gaming survival?
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Originally Posted by redsunx View Post
Do any of you realize this was PC's last chance at gaming survival?
is the world going to end tommorow or something ?

plenty of time for technology to evolve , its still early days mate .. i dunno what your on about .

Pc gaming will be around for along time to come , cant see it ever coming to an end .

BF3 is not the be all and end all of pc gaming , its a great game but "pc's last chance at gaming survival " ? plenty of games on their way and 2012 has lost offer .

plz stop posting rubbish .
    
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I guess they can let the cat out of the bag now.

When I insinuated this, people called me crazy. Oh well, I guess for BF4 they will not even bother with this charade and will just develop for the consoles first and PC second like most are doing now.
 
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If they didn't tell us this, you guys wouldn't have known. The game is fine, it's tons of fun, and it's not broken. But BECAUSE they revealed this secret, you feel the need to complain over a perfectly fine game because consoles became the primary platform later on in development.

Who cares if they are? If the game works well, then does it really matter? The answer to that is no, but majority of the PC gaming crowd will NEVER be pleased. Which is why we're not given top priority.
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EA puts games on shelves instead of the arrogant "when it's ready" approach some devs take.
Some devs think their game will sell no matter what. Then after all the hype their game sucks balls.

There comes a time when a game has to be released or it will never get done.
BF2 was six years ago and BF3 was three years in development, should they have taken another year? Why? PC gamers are never satisfied, so just release the game already.
IMO I really doubt it's been in development for 3 years. More like in thoughts, talks and illustrations for the last 2 and then full cycle around late last year or January of this year.
EA gave them the green light, they decided to do BF3 or something because it was like a switch flipped around the first of the year. I doubt the actual map/modelling/artistic development took more than 1 year, tbh. They were probably even building the FB2 engine precursor for whatever they did next and only started to publicize and market the idea when BF3 was go.

In light of what you've said, I do think there is a sweet spot. When you account the complexity of BF3, the maps, engine, balancing maps, bugs, performance and try to keep it consistent with multiplayer and 64 possible players, 10 months to a year is really shaving it close to not being enough. Back around the first of the year they announced the release date of Oct or Nov, the only think I could do was was shriek. And we can see it in the game, there are things that just don't really mesh or look out of place.
Even DNF took 2.5 years from the decision to build it on Unreal 3.5 (of course they had a skeleton crew).
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wouldnt of taken 3 years , no way .. cumon

the guy above me got it spot on pretty much .
    
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is the world going to end tommorow or something ?

plenty of time for technology to evolve , its still early days mate .. i dunno what your on about .

Pc gaming will be around for along time to come , cant see it ever coming to an end .

BF3 is not the be all and end all of pc gaming , its a great game but "pc's last chance at gaming survival " ? plenty of games on their way and 2012 has lost offer .

plz stop posting rubbish .
Okay name five PC exclusive releases in the last 6 months. One's that show up on TV. That important. Name 3 PC titles that were NOT ports in the past 3 months. Important titles. Something I'll find in IGN. Excluding BF3. BF3 is the only title that will show superiority of the PC. Oh yeah, does rubbish include proper spelling/grammar? If BF3 doesn't prove that PC is 1337, then what will?
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Do any of you realize this was PC's last chance at gaming survival?
No, it wasn't.
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Given EA had their grubby paws on this title I'm surprised it wasn't developed for consoles from the start.. You gotta follow the money and remember, every console playing moron pre-orders giving them an interest free loan, and when they buy it used pay for the frickin' $10 online pass..
No no your right, it's a conspiracy!!
EA and the US Government with collaboration by Activision wanted to secretly sabotage DICE, because they wanted to beat MW3 in sales and make a better quality game, by making it for PC but instead they were sabotaged not by the larger userbase into making it for consoles, but by the US government! since we all know, the majority of the gaming userbase, is on PC

Yes yes every moron plays on console, only hard working free thinking college students play on PC, all those pre orders were interest free loans printed by the federal reserve bank, orchestrated to destroy DICE and the Battlefield franchise since 2008 when Obama came into power, obama and EA are puppets to destroy DICE, so MW3 prevails, it was the illuminati behind it!

Quick tell ron paul hes teh last savoir of teh human rase


Edited by PhenomHCL - 11/1/11 at 6:14pm
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"same fps with a dual core as it does a quad, because it's consolized"
That's not how it works. Ideally the vast majority of work gets put onto the GPU, which is considerably faster. Battlefield shows remarkably consistent frames all the way from newer IBs to older Athlons, meaning they're doing this quite well. Console games have rely on specialized processors, and console "ports" thus often take way too much CPU power (GTA IV is a perfect example). Getting good FPS with an older processor is the OPPOSITE of "consolization".

"It runs poorly for the graphical detail provided. I also dislike the fact that this late in 2011 there is no tess, objects look low res, and everything is flat."
I don't know about tessellation, but there are some incredibly high-res textures in Battlefield 3, and I don't know what you mean by "everything is flat". There are plenty of rocks, grasses, and foliage across the terrain.


Your last paragraph is irrelevant to the discussion. If you think Battlefield has issues, that's fine, but you can't blame these things on consoles.
I don't really feel like having a discussion where I justify my opinions and thoughts on the subject.

There is nothing horribly wrong with BF3, I "personally" just felt let down by some of the problems I've had with the game.

Even the mouse control where a slight movement results in a large change in my sight picture mystifies me. There seems to be a lot of issues like this where there doesn't seem to be any attention to detail from DICE on the finer points of the game. Which makes me believe that time spent else where could have been used to address a lot of these small issues to present a much better release product overall.

I love BF3, and will play it. Visuals aren't everything, but I will wait to play it a lot and hope for some patches to address some of the issues.
    
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