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It was obvious. I've mentioned this many times. The 720 loading screens, the bad hud, the obvious glitches and bugs. The lack of PC features and customization present in every decent PC game.

It is not a polished PC game.

I just hope they're working on making the PC version a true PC game now.
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I don't know why everyone thinks this is like a continue or the next part of the bad company series. its far from it!!! "Battlefield 3" which is the pretty much the remake and better version of battlefield 2! not Bad Company...people just don't get it. The game is built from the ground up everytime.

So Frostbite 2 is the newest version from the ground up. So EVERYTHING FROM BC2 isn't there!!!!! Bf3 its its own thing and title! not BC3 renamed as BF3.....annoys me. anwaysssssss When frostbite 2.5 comes out i bet the destruction will get more advance. Same as when Frost bite 2.5 came out and whatnot.

Destruction became insane. Frostbite 2 is all about the environment. Not destruction. They focused more on details, lighting, sound, and of course every building has its own destruction characteristic and destruction model. When 2.5 comes out i bet they will focus more on the effects and destruction.

I believe the detail of the destruction in bf3 is far more advance they the other game engines and will progress more. The reason the couldn't fully do all out destruction is because it has to balance out the gameplay.

Yes, its amazing to have a whole 5 story building to come down but then the path is blocked and no one from your team can advance to that objective or rush to the com center and defuse it because someone thought it was cool to distory the whole dam building at your spawn point.


Its the same for comparing this game to MW2......This isnt COD!!! not even close. COD is its own thing. Its made its own form of gameplay. All out running, spray and pray arcade gameplay.

Im done now. Yes its weird to hear that its a console port but it originally was for the pc and it shows. They just had to rush all the people developing the pc version and move on to the consoles since its really easy to just port it over. BF3 was suppose to come out in 2013 solely for pc then ported to console. Read it on a gamers blog a while back when BF3 was just new.
Are you thick or something? Do you really believe every word of marketing hype a company spews to sell their games?

Frostbite 2 isn't all that different from frostbite 1.5. Some minor revisions and updates and that's it.

The game plays NOTHING like BF2 did, and almost identical to how BC2 would if they ported in the same maps.

Yes, its shinier... DUH its newer. I know this may be a shocker to you, but unlike the Crysis franchise, the rest of the technology world progresses at an incredible speed.

You think proper destruction would break the game? BC2 was a more balanced game even with its sniper-shotguns, and it has far more destruction than BF3 does. It never "closed off a path" or "destroyed a spawnpoint". What are you talking about?

And yeah, we CAN compare it to CoD actually, as that was the whole point of BF3 and Bad Company before it, to win over the CoD audience. Each BF game since 2142 has been more and more cod-like in an effort to do so.

Thanks for your rant though.
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Are you thick or something? Do you really believe every word of marketing hype a company spews to sell their games?

Frostbite 2 isn't all that different from frostbite 1.5. Some minor revisions and updates and that's it.

The game plays NOTHING like BF2 did, and almost identical to how BC2 would if they ported in the same maps.

Yes, its shinier... DUH its newer. I know this may be a shocker to you, but unlike the Crysis franchise, the rest of the technology world progresses at an incredible speed.

You think proper destruction would break the game? BC2 was a more balanced game even with its sniper-shotguns, and it has far more destruction than BF3 does. It never "closed off a path" or "destroyed a spawnpoint". What are you talking about?

And yeah, we CAN compare it to CoD actually, as that was the whole point of BF3 and Bad Company before it, to win over the CoD audience. Each BF game since 2142 has been more and more cod-like in an effort to do so.

Thanks for your rant though.
+1

It would be nice though, imo if they just made 2142 again with updated graphics and less laggy netcode, it would be awesome.
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It would be nice though, imo if they just made 2142 again with updated graphics and less laggy netcode, it would be awesome.
Oh how I would love that. I really would.
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man, you guys comparing any and every FPS game that comes out to CoD, i'd love to belt ya. especially regarding BF vs CoD. what because the little digital man on the screen in game with your name on him runs around with the gun in his face in a typical First Person view its CoD?

*SMACK*

dunno what everyone is whinging about anyway. Origin is bit of a pain in the arse but not a deal breaker. im loving the BF3 experience. its pretty hard, so much chaos dunno whats going on but its definitely got that BF feel as opposed to BC. they definitely went for a more urban closed in feel with some maps (havnt tried them all yet) but lets be honest, all they are doing is taking leaves out of the modern day war story book. thats how the fighting is done today. theres no more of this open field long range WWII-style line movement. not as much anyway. its all claustrophobic, close quarters, heart of the city combat. they built on that essence and created a new Battlefield in every sense of the word.

people expecting large open fields with grassy plains and long range tank warfare need to get over it, times have changed, so has the industry, so has the world. move on, they have. be a real gamer and adapt.

and dunno if you guys realised, but PC's havnt been at the forefront of gaming for the past 10 years now i'd say. pretty much since the Xbox and PS2 came about and brought in a HUGE console crowd. consoles were big before obviously, but thats what did it. especially when multiplayer was introduced in such a user friendly manner. compared to the old days of dial up modem games and the like.

but the gaming has in no way deteriorated. the community and its reception has. companies dont "over-hype" games. we do, its all in how you take it. a company says "yeah, our game is going to be sick" just as you would expect them to do for marketing, just as they should do, and why not, and everyone is like "OMG THIS IS GOING TO BE SICK!" and the company gets their money. no hand has forced any purchase of anything but your own. remember that.

at the end of the day, its the end consumer who can also be held to blame too for this apparent downfall in PC gaming. devs will only go so far with their "fans" and their commitment to them before they realise its too little, too late and they move on to other projects or branch out IE cross platforms. thats business. devs try and try but the problem is they have the bar set so high for them that they rarely reach it and get shunned and spat on and ultimately face the possibility of losing money, so they look at real alternatives.

i think its time that everyone realised that PC gaming isnt meant to be the be-all-end-all gaming experience. some of yous act like gaming was made for PC and every other platform is just "lucky" or something? wake up fellas (and gals). its not the way, it never was really, never will be.

a thought process like that means you arnt a gamer at all. well sorry, you are, but a very closed minded one.

to me, BF3 has lived up to its hype in every way. they promised a sequel to BF2. but its not like they were just gonna re-skin the game. they made some changes and tried new things, and we got BF3. its definitely got the BF edge thats for sure. they modernised it based on whats happening out there in the real world, and if i hear one more CoD reference i'll start swinging again haha. CoD did the same thing and thats the only real similarity between the 2 titles, the timeline of warfare. wow, identical games then. NOT.

in regards to it replacing BC, i think that the problem there is BC was probably never expected to take off like it did. it was a single player game with the BF name strapped to it originally, probably to help sales, it was something new for the DICE team to try their skills at. and came with an online component. people forget that, PC only gamers wouldnt have a clue about it since we didnt get BC1.

when BC2 came out, all of this focus went to the online, especially on PC since we all wanted a new BF game. and the reception was huge. now though PC gamers who welcomed BC2 are going to be forever using it as a comparison to any future DICE projects for a while i would imagine. thats not DICE's fault, thats ours again. had we have been given BC1, things might be different, maybe. probably not though. you could even say the the online component of BC2 was a sort of proving grounds for the DICE team to see if they could bring their BF title into the modern age of gaming. that makes BF2 sound old when it isnt THAT old, but in this industry it is. and it worked so well, they carried on from there. so yeah a comparison of BF3 to the general mechanics of BC2 is fair, but they are completely different games with a different intended purpose.

we as a community made BC2 what it was, to find a similar yet new experience in BF3 is all they were expecting from us. people say "oh well this new Frostbite isnt new compared to Frostbite 1.5 really" then they go on to list differences. contradiction much? we're talking v1.5 to v.2 here. i would put money on v1.5 being a test project for what is now the current v2 Frostbite engine. coz i can tell you now, there is a HUGE difference between Frostbite 2 and Frostbite 1. theres a huge difference between Frostbite 1.5 and Frostbite 1. and theres a minor difference between Frostbite 2 and 1.5. see the trend there. if you do, why act so surprised that Frostbite 2 isnt such a massive improvement over Frostbite 1.5. its the same thing with further final tweaks and enhancements. thats all. its still newer, as they claimed. it looks better, as they claimed. newer and better are popular words in marketing, but again its all about how we as a consumer take it. newer and better doesnt necessarily have to mean revolutionary.

and i bet if you google-fiends scour the internet for countless sources of reports and info, you wont ever find EA or DICE or anyone related to the BF3 project claiming it will completely re-vamp BC2 or replace it or whatever. they cunningly left out comments like that, knowing that BC2 online was in hindsight a taste of things to come.

DICE are simply trying to build off that while maintaining their core franchise but also evolving it. personally i think they done that really well. EA has made it hard with Origin, but thats business for you. dont like it, leave it. nuff said. its not gonna change, my prediction is this is just the beginning of an inevitable HUGE change in the way we play games online and in general, and it will spread throughout the industry. im not implying Origin will take over or anything like that, but things are changing. for better or worse is in the eye of the beholder.

imo, after this wall of text and a huge rant, which im sure most of you wont read yet still find ways to argue and abuse, devs arnt ruining the experience. the community is. gaming has evolved and we refuse to adapt. so who's fault is it really?

great, clearly i talk too much, coz now my beers warm.
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who cares if console is the lead platform, as long as it's fun to play I don't mind.
It still looks better than the console versions too.
Edited by GForceXIII - 11/2/11 at 4:42am
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So what. The game is amazing. We all have to pay our bills and smart money is on console sales.
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Thanks gtarmanrob i really needed that belt wooping, i am agreeing to every word you said.
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[...] I just hope they're working on making the PC version a true PC game now.
If only... They already sold us the game, hence they have no incentive to make it the best it can be.

Just like it took them 6 month to make BC2 remember filter settings and have auto-join... Something that CS had a decade ago.
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I'm sure that DICE had no say in the matter. EA gives them a time frame and DICE needs to do it in that time frame
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