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really now? My system below maxes it out just fine. Granted I turn shadows down 1 notch
Come on now, mine will only do 30-40 fps maxed out and to me that is unacceptable I run most settings on high and very happy with the way it plays and the FPS I get.
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You can compare them, because both EA & Activision are trying to compete with one another. I'm not saying DICE or the developers for any of the CoD series were directly competing for the best game, they probably just wanted to appease their normal community. But BF3 did try and dress itself up to catch the attention of other gamers, there's no question about it (and I'm not saying it's a bad thing.)
I enjoy Bazaar, it would be my top choice compared to the other smaller maps (Although it could do without the APCs, which some servers take out vehicles entirely.) Most people seem to disregard it for certain reasons, but it's one of the few maps I enjoy playing when infantry only.
yep i agree and you are right in that sense. they can be compared on a business level, so can any game really. but what a lot of people do more commonly lately is compare new FPS games to CoD in the FPS sense. not in terms of marketing or development. gameplay, things like that. which is crazy, they are nothing alike, save for the era of warfare and the viewpoint. i must have missed the memo that stated CoD is the benchmark of any FPS game too

anyway i just finished a solid hour of playing this game and seriously, if you have issues with it or you're refusing to buy to pretend to stick it to EA or whatever, you are SERIOUSLY missing out. besides that terrible subway RPG spam map, this game is AWESOME.

it looks amazing, one of the best looking games i've seen in a long time. im playing it on my P170 notebook, havnt tried it on my desktop yet. all settings maxed i think @ 1920x1080, no AA im pretty sure and i think shadows are on High, to be honest i didnt really take a good look at settings.

looks and runs sweet. very happy customer
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Tbh though, my favourite maps in BF2/BF2142 were of the smaller, more infantry based kind (camp gibraltar + city maps/karkand).
DC Bahsras Edge/Night and DC Urban Siege comes in mind.
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BF3 on consoles is PC port... it has in game menus and server browsers...
Oh snap.
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If they didn't tell us this, you guys wouldn't have known.
Good thing I already knew before the game was released then.


Edited by Ecchi-BANZAII!!! - 11/2/11 at 9:28am
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And if this wasn't posted, people would have never known and gone on thinking PC was the primary. And...nothing. But now...now they have something to whine about (and oh will they whine)
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God forbid crytek ever did this with one of their games. Oh wait.
Unless, I'm missing something people are totally cool with battlefield even though they pulled a crytek. :\\
Either way, I know BF3 is a really good game, and probably is better and more polished game, it just seems kinda hypocritical.
I do think they'd have been much better off not having said this. Although, it appears their fanbase (BF3) is strong enough that it isn't making a difference.
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*snip*

imo, after this wall of text and a huge rant, which im sure most of you wont read yet still find ways to argue and abuse, devs arnt ruining the experience. the community is. gaming has evolved and we refuse to adapt. so who's fault is it really?

great, clearly i talk too much, coz now my beers warm.
What i bolded is the truth. Its funny that computers are ever evolving and that we are constantly upgrading our hardware but will not upgrade and use a new methodology when it comes to thinking. We are the ones that are making games bad. We think we are owed and entitled to a better experience. We are the ones as a community that are supposed to make the experience better.
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Not once did I say PC user, I used the term 'PC gamer' several times in my post. Clear distinction must be made as the majority of the PC's in use today aren't used for gaming and in some case not even configured to play games at all. Hence, talking about PC's as a whole is irrelevant - I'm talking more about PC gaming and its respective gamers.
I didn't say "PC user" either.. I said console gamers game on PC as well. This is were you start to get into arbitrary definitions of what is considered gaming. Last time I checked, the term "gaming" is holistic and includes those that play online games such as Farmville, Pogo Games, Yahoo Games etc. Unless you're trying to suggest that they're not gamers which is very elitist.

Furthermore, you have an incredible feat of trying to define what an acceptable gaming PC is. Is it one that can max out Crysis at 60Hz or is it one that can play Doom 95 - There isn't an objective standard.

You can cite shipments of dedicated GPUs but given the advent of general purpose graphics processing, there are far more uses for modern video cards other than just gaming such as encoding, rendering, home theater, folding to name a few uses.

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Making a nod towards the "causal" Farmville playing type, the PCGA also noted that "The report also estimates the worldwide number of consumers gaming with discrete graphics solutions on their PCs (Desktop and Notebooks) to be 212.6 million for 2009 and expects this to grow to about 322 million by 2014."

It seems the trend towards mobile gaming platforms is also being seen reflected in the PC market, as PCGA research committee chairman Matt Ployhar increasingly sees sales of gaming notebooks and laptops coming to the fore. "One of the biggest trends I'm seeing in the 2009 Horizon's hardware report indicates a strong demand for more capable mobile based systems by PC Gamers."
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This refutes two arguments in one. Not only does it include "Farmville"-type gamers as contributing to the sales and stigma of "PC gamer" but in the second paragraph it refutes the notion that you can define "PC gaming hardware" as being solely the purchase of dedicated items such as CPUs, GPUs, and more RAM.

Console gamers are PC gamers, and the irony is that the opposite isn't true; PC gamers aren't console gamers because there's only one Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii... Not an infinite variation. Consoles aren't something PC gamers just so happen to have unless there's a game they want to play which can't be found on PC.


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The point I was trying to highlight was more on how game developers who originally released successful franchises/games on PC moved on to consoles exclusively. You wouldn't call that a stab in the back, or at least a blatant show of neglect?

The other point was on how more and more games seem to have less effort put into development in porting the games to PC, whilst the console version do not have these imperfections.

A few random examples:
Dead Space 1; mouse movement is out of sync. It has never been patched and there is no way of actually fixing it. Playing the game is difficult to play with mouse, due to the out of sync mouse movements.

Saints Row 2 having extremely bad optimizations resulting with it putting excessive load on your hardware or having to reduce your settings (defeating the point of using a high end PC, when you could easily play other games that have looked much better).

Resident Evil 4; No mouse controls!(None what so ever) Low res textures. No uninstaller (you have to manually delete it bit by bit).

... I could name a few more games but I guess you get the point. I mean even games like Mortal Kombat Kollection which was meant to release 31st Augest on PC, Xbox live and PSN. The date came and went, with it releasing on Xbox live and PSN, but not PC - there wasn't even any word of how long it would be delayed... there still isn't. I mean this is just one example highlighting the bigger picture. I wouldn't call none of the cases above 'fair' for PC gamers.
You have some valid concerns.
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Wow, I joined the PC gaming crowd at the wrong time.

Almost seems like PC gaming is dying..
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Wow, I joined the PC gaming crowd at the wrong time.

Almost seems like PC gaming is dying..
Yea, you should really sell everything out while you can, while there are still people that want the hardware.

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Wow, I joined the PC gaming crowd at the wrong time.

Almost seems like PC gaming is dying..
I agree, that's why I'll take those parts from you at fire sale prices.

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