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So I am planning on getting a GTX 580 for Christmas. Though I had heard rumors of new nvidia card coming soon. Now I found the whole "Kepler" series that is supposed to come out in 2012. I know ATI is coming out with the 7000 series in 2012 as well. And according to some sites Kepler is supposed to yield 3 to 4 times better performance per watt over Fermi. Now if that means that we'll end up with a card with the same performance as Fermi just less power then I'll just go with Fermi I'm really not concerned about the power consumption aspect. So should I hold off to see where Kepler and the HD 7000s go or just get the 580 as planned.
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If you are not in a hurry say in the next 6 months to get a card then wait it out, there is no news on what clocks the new gpus run at and any performance preview on the top end card suggest it is not hitting the shelves soon.
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Personally, I wouldn't wait for something that doesn't exist yet. TSMC hasn't readied a single new GPU yet. So if you want to upgrade, I'd say do it now. Or else you'd have to wait for months. If they readied up the cards, I'd have said wait for them to ship out. But at this rate... going to be bit of a long wait.

Get the 580 or a pair of 6870's would also do better at holding up till next gen.
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Kepler & Southern Islands is more about going 'green' efficiency. Your correct to yield 3 to 4 times better performance per watt.

I've never seen any next series card with more than 15%-25% performance increase.

However with next gen (28nm fabrication) we will see with both Kepler and Southern Islands up to 50% less power consumption to run.

Example....You'll be able to run three 680's (if that's what they will be called) with one 850 Watt PSU. Where currently you can run two in SLI with 850 watts tops.

Rumors have the lower end cards will start about December up to Jan/Feb for the higher end. All speculation to some point. Both have been delayed due to shortage of chips.

AMD is going to cut some corners to be out on time. Nvidia will be slightly behind that. This info goes back to summer, July. Haven't read anything more recent however.

Southern Islands, Kepler, and Apples A6 process puzzle outdated.

Here's where I read about the time frame being pushed back to 2012 Q1.

Kepler 28nm to launch in Q1 2012

August. Nvidia's Kepler to Arrive in 2012
     
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Kepler & Southern Islands is more about going 'green' efficiency. Your correct to yield 3 to 4 times better performance per watt.

I've never seen any next series card with more than 15%-25% performance increase.
This. People have been assuming the GPU's are going to be 3-4 times faster... even the transaction from DX9 to 10 (biggest of the past decade) resulted in a 2x performance or so. The 8800 GTX over the X1950 XTX that is. As an another example, the GTX 480 performed about %75 better than a 285.

Also, performance per watt numbers are out of range as well. The 580 tops out at 250W, so this new GPU has to pull 50-100W to perform like a 580 (in order to make up for 3-4 times lower P/W). Which doesn't make sense.
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580 3gb card and you'll be very happy. I don't see kelper being that much faster, maybe 15-20% over a stock 580. 580+overclock=kelper. I'm still rocking my 480's as I would need 3 580's to beat my 3 480's. 2 580's are a lot slower. You will just get more performance with less power like they said. Who cares. with 2 3gb 580's, you will need no more than a 1000w psu ever. Kelper you may only need 800w psu. If your ready for a upgrade, go for it. I may wait til kelper comes out then get me 3 580 3gb and get all the performance needed for surround for the next few years no matter what title.
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I was more looking at the 1.5GB model because they charge an extra $200 for the jump to 3GB. Ok I was kind of thinking that would be the case just as Ivybridge is more toward energy saving but a small performance boost over SB.
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nice, so i'll be able to run gtx 680 in sli on my AX850.

You should wait, i brought a second 460 to wait kepler instead of getting a 580.
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nice, so i'll be able to run gtx 680 in slion my AX850.

You should wait, i brought a second 460 to wait kepler instead of getting a 580.
You can do 580 SLI on that power supply too. Check my sig. I never had any power related issues even when benching at my 580s at 935MHz.
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You can do 580 SLI on that power supply too. Check my sig. I never had any power related issues even when benching at my 580s at 935MHz.
Was that the max you could go with it? I had a pair of 580's that I took upto 1050/2200 in my system with the AX1200, but when I moved them to the tech bench that I sold with a AX850, they couldn't go above 925/2200. Maxing out psu's to the max is bad for the psu and real bad for the component wanting more power but can't get it.
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