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You're actually wrong about this.

The first thing to keep in mind is that the NAND flash market is a commodity market, not unlike other commodities like wheat and steel. Flash is traded like any other commodity, and the market price is determined through buy and sell orders, unlike say CPUs, where big monolithic entities (Intel) set prices to what they think the market supports.

The current cost (at least what traded on 11/1/01) for 128GB of flash was $96. The retail price of a 128GB drive is $200 +- 20 for the mainstream makes. Factor in production cost, RMA/replacement costs (high, as mainstream SSDs are fairly error prone), controller costs, and of course the retail markup, and you have probably a $125-150 production cost for a drive that sells for $200 (or less if you shop around) to the end user.

That's a 50% markup, and probably closer to 15-25% markup when you look at the bulk price directly from the manufacturer. Certainly not a 300% markup, at least for mainstream drives. Of course premium brands will have a higher markup for essentially the same product, but that's no different from any other industry, from clothes to monitors.

I'm not and I know plenty of people in the silcone bussiness that will tell you otherwise.

those big profit Intel makes, it ain't from the cpu bussiness. Its from the cpu acessoried bussiness. chipset, controllers, IP, Code tools etc.

If it costs intel $50 to make a SSD I'd be shocked.
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Good thing I got my F3s not that long ago since their sold out on the egg>
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their problem not ours, they couldnt figure out how to keep their supplies up? we buy from somewhere else.

giving this media attention = excuse to hike hdd prices

and guys - having viable choices removed is never a "good thing"
Edited by hazarada - 11/1/11 at 9:57pm
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their problem not ours, they couldnt figure out how to keep their supplies up? we buy from somewhere else.

giving this media attention = excuse to hike hdd prices
Where will they buy from, exactly?
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How long will it take for prices to back to normal? Good thing i got a empty 1.5TB i just got from RMA not too long ago.
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When I get done laughing, SSD's aren't nearly this expensive to manufacturer. A good rule of thumb is that you can take the WHOLESALE cost of any item and divide by 3 and it'll get you in the ball park. Figure from whole to retail another 50-100% increase in cost.

Thats before you count the margin Intel gets selling the chips. Which is easily 300%

Lets face it. SSD prices are high because they can be. Not because they actually should be. With more production volume costs would go down as well.
Do you have any proof? We have an idea of SandForce controllers. We have an idea of NAND commodity prices as well. Let's see some EVIDENCE to back up your claim.

You "rule of thumb" is nonsense. I know how much some companies pay for parts.

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I'm not and I know plenty of people in the silcone bussiness that will tell you otherwise.

those big profit Intel makes, it ain't from the cpu bussiness. Its from the cpu acessoried bussiness. chipset, controllers, IP, Code tools etc.
Really?

Edited by DuckieHo - 11/1/11 at 10:25pm
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Where will they buy from, exactly?
from everybody other then ASUS that apparently arent whining in the interwebs?
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from everybody other then ASUS that apparently arent whining in the interwebs?
LOL, you haven't check HDD prices from retailers and suppliers then.

Samsung is worried as well.
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So when are thing going back to normal?
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This shortage of HDDs might explain why prices have gone up...
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