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Poll Results: Ubuntu One

 
  • 15% (3)
    I use the free service an willing to Purchase and extend premium account.
  • 10% (2)
    There are better cloud services out there and I will be providing proof in a post!
  • 30% (6)
    It is good enough to use as a free service.
  • 45% (9)
    what is ubuntu one?
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You may not be a guru, but in comparison with a lot of people on this forum (including me) you are god!
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are we talking sophisticated as in "only the best things in life will do" or sophisticated as in "extremely complex industrial machine that will rip your arm off without a second thought" or "I'll pretend to be sophisticated on this date, so this girl will..." well you get the idea, if not...I'm sorry.
so I shouldn't have built that shrine...I knew something was up, as I took the code names as introduction of new deities...smile.gif
If this is the easiest of linux to use...god help us...I struggled hard my first 6 or so months in ubuntu, before that, it was 3 months of miserable experiences with other distro and hopping around every few days. I didn't have the right hardware, nothing I knew worked, it was hard to find help as a lot of the linux community unresponsive to new users or down right ugly and nasty with them.
I started to gather the right hardware, read a lot, and just started tinkering, if I broke something, i rinsed and repeated...eventually I got to where I am today, I know things, but I wouldn't exactly call myself a "guru", as a lot of the problems I solve, are the same problems over and over again.

I don't know when you started but I started in 2010 and at that point Ubuntu was better than it is now. I didn't like the DE though. I can tell you that if a person doesn't follow the "windows/mac" mindset on how things works then buntu is easy. Honestly, I think that's why it's not "allowed" in the education system (at least in the US). As of right now though I think Ubuntu should not be the main/recommended variant. Something like Xubuntu, Lubuntu, or Bodhi do to their lighter requirements mean they should be less picky about the hardware.
     
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In the ubuntu one control panel, is the folder on the local machine, set to sync?

open up ubuntu one settings, go to cloud folders, and find the folder that you want to sync, make sure "Sync Locally" is checked, should take care of the problem.

The folder is being shared by my friend on his Ubuntu rig, and I have the Windows client for the moment. I have it set to sync locally, but all this does is make sure that any files visible in the web interface are on my machine. It doesn't work in the reverse, so if I add files locally they don't get uploaded. The sync only seems to work in one direction.

Also I do have read/modify rights for that folder, before case you ask wink.gif
    
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The folder is being shared by my friend on his Ubuntu rig, and I have the Windows client for the moment. I have it set to sync locally, but all this does is make sure that any files visible in the web interface are on my machine. It doesn't work in the reverse, so if I add files locally they don't get uploaded. The sync only seems to work in one direction.
Also I do have read/modify rights for that folder, before case you ask wink.gif

they do say the windows client is buggy...so maybe it is a bug or right now, cause it works both ways in ubuntu atm.
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Originally Posted by Transhour View Post

I was explaining how this wasn't an option for me, so I'm not sure how I missed the point? You said you had a friend that you and him use to swap data backups with before you moved on to this "dedicated" server(s) you say you have. I simply was just pointing out, that all my friends and family, Either share their computers with multiple users, or no where near as concerned with security as I would be with my data. To me that would sorta defeat the point of setting this system up, If only like 10% sure that my data is safe and could be used later to restore from if need.
To be honest, I've had a few drinks so I've lost the thread of this discussion now. But that's a fair enough point smile.gif
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Plus the ISP's out here, don't particular like you using their residential packages in this way, (so there are other barriers for this than a trust issue).
It's really not any different to using the same ISP to upload to dropbox or any other file host nor downloading a number of files to your hard disk. Saying ISPs don't like doing that is a little like saying TV networks don't like you watching specific shows despite the very fact they they air them in the 1st place.
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As an example, a few years back, I set up my file server as a ftp/http dev site, for me and my partners to use as a dev environment for our projects. Ran it like this for about six months, and got a snail mail from them stating they had intentions of interrupting my service, if I didn't cease the server activity with in 48 hours or purchase a business class service from them. (which was slightly more expensive, but at the same time was well worth it as the speeds are more constant, and the service is much more reliable than it was on the commercial service).
Oh wow. That is crappy. I've never in my life known any such woeful service with any ISPs in the UK. I'm genuinely quite shocked by this. I only hope that you terminated your contract with them at the earliest convenient chance
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config files are apart of it, but the data is not all non-personal. I did state that there were important documents in the OP, as well as backing up my Home folder (excluding the downloads folder), the home folder typically contains my personal data as well, so yes, there is a "confidence" issue to start with, has been one of my biggest concern since I first started using this service. Yes there is information I do consider "too" sensitive to upload to the cloud, like bank/credit statements, social security number, client info, etc...all that stuff get digitally stored on the local file/storage server, and hard copy backed up into a file cabinet (which each year I empty and move to a storage shed).
Yes you are right, they can not guarantee me or you a 100% that there wont be a dubious system admin, that during his lunch hour browses thru people's stuff in their cloud. I would imagine canonical has a pretty decent standard of hiring, vetting their admins and engineers, and have a tiered checks and balances to prevent any breach like this from happening. If they do break the trust I've put in them, I will be the first to cancel my service with them, and be weary for a very long time of any type of cloud/remote back up.
Fair point. I'm just super paranoid about my data (despite your earlier accusations) so I avoid public clouds - but as I have my own dedicated servers anyway, it's no great inconvenience.
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Look, you came into this post and was all like "pointless, you can do this for free!", yes you can do this for free (with mitigating circumstances), but you also use "dedicated" servers, which are quite a lot more than just this $3 USD a month that ubuntu one charges for 20GB(and Significantly much more than the free 5GB you get for signing up). So yes, I was talking about shared hosting (I'm sure I made the distinction when I said the vds and dedicated servers do not suffer from this problem). I wouldn't feel to "grand" if some one came in here, read that they could spend $5 a month on one of these "unlimited data/bandwidth" deals that shared hosting offers, and then take your advice about rsync and a cron job, and set this up, upload their files, only to have their account terminated cause they violated the TOS of the shared hosting (potentially loosing their data if they were foolish enough to remove the local files) and waste bandwidth uploading to that shared host.
Argue as much as you want, my point wasn't incorrect. Granted it might have been blunt and needed more explanation, but my point was no more invalid than your rebuttals.
Please also bare in mind that you did ask for peoples opinions. If you don't want negative feedback then don't bloody ask for peoples opinions.
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No i was not mistaken, Virtual Dedicated Server is a real term, Virtual indicating that it is a virtual machine, Dedicated meaning it offers the privacy of a dedicated server, and well server, meaning this can be ideally used as a server. This is the first time I've ever been corrected on it, and I've heard plenty of "tech" people use it other than myself. if anything VPS means the same thing, I see that a lot too being used, If i'm not mistaken, Godaddy calls their VPS service, Virtual Dedicated Servers. The current host I often use, arvixe, call those packages VPS, but all the techs of their's I've spoke to over the last few years since using them, will say "VDS" or "VPS" depends if they are reading off the screen or not I guess. So to me, this is just another case of you wanting to debate semantics...which I've already said is something I do not do.
I've just checked godaddy and you're right. I've honestly never heard of the term before and it still seems an odd phrase to me, but it's definitely used smile.gif
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As for dumping the data, since you said this could be done for "free", I was looking at potential "free" options, Like using my business partners server he pays for his company, as a dump server, or even one of my or his/my own clients VDS or Dedicated server for this purpose. I personally find it unethical to do such thing without some form of permission from them before I did this, as this whole thing was started based on your statement "pointless, you can do this for free".
I gave free options without having to betray clients trust. Thus your comments read as if you were deliberately picking an absurd argument to debunk my comment - if it wasn't intended that way and you were just exploring every avenue, then I apologise.
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