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It's a miniscule difference (a few dollars in years), which most manufactorers market their units for (efficiency instead of quality). However, yes, that's not the case here.

I'd choose the HCP myself, but the Platinum is considerable as well. However, with the HCP going for $20 more, it does happen to be a better choice. Well, at least for me.
Cost per day difference between 1000w 80+ Gold unit & 1000w 80+ Platinum unit (87% vs 89%) is $0.02 (average for power costs in the US.)

That'd come out to $7.30/year. So while efficiency is a measurable difference in quality, it is not a substantial difference in quality.

However, you can't say for $20 more the HCP is a better choice. Like the other user pointed out, you get 2 year longer warranty with the Seasonic and it is fully modular.
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Cost per day difference between 1000w 80+ Gold unit & 1000w 80+ Platinum unit (87% vs 89%) is $0.02 (average for power costs in the US.)

That'd come out to $7.30/year. So while efficiency is a measurable difference in quality, it is not a substantial difference in quality.

However, you can't say for $20 more the HCP is a better choice. Like the other user pointed out, you get 2 year longer warranty with the Seasonic and it is fully modular.
How so? You get to have a more proven unit with more power, that's "supposed" to peak higher (until SeaSonic's prove otherwise).

As for warranty, by that time comes, it wouldn't mean much. It'd have been better to just buy a new unit. Full modularity does appeal to some, but I personally don't see much point in it (due to the added resistance). Sort of at least.
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An additional 200w for $20 does not denote a better deal in my book if that's any consolation...

Personally the SeaSonic power supplies have always been better than the competition in my book. Despite the higher prices, said prices are justified due to the higher quality.

Just judging from Tator's explanation, the SeaSonic here was shown to be better in every way.

What he means by this, though, is that despite the HPC being slighly "worse" than the SeaSonic, it'd be like comparing a GTX 570 to the GTX 480. There's not much difference to really justify the cost of one over another as either would be a fantastic buy...
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How so? You get to have a more proven unit with more power, that's "supposed" to peak higher (until SeaSonic's prove otherwise).
The HCP-1200's not really more proven as it's not been market that long and it only has a few more reviews from

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As for warranty, by that time comes, it wouldn't mean much. It'd have been better to just buy a new unit. Full modularity does appeal to some, but I personally don't see much point in it (due to the added resistance). Sort of at least.
Your unit is almost 5 years old and still worth it's weight, so to speak. Newer units are better in some regards but that doesn't mean you should be upgrading your PSU unless you're looking for a quieter experience or to bump up efficiency since there's more of a difference in this case, between your unit and a new platinum unit. (79% efficient at full load and a platinum unit with 89% efficiency at full load.)
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post #45 of 67
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The HCP-1200's not really more proven as it's not been market that long and it only has a few more reviews from
It's been longer, and had it's reviews anyway.

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Your unit is almost 5 years old and still worth it's weight, so to speak. Newer units are better in some regards but that doesn't mean you should be upgrading your PSU unless you're looking for a quieter experience or to bump up efficiency since there's more of a difference in this case, between your unit and a new platinum unit. (79% efficient at full load and a platinum unit with 89% efficiency at full load.)
Yeah, I had a Revo 85+ before. Replaced the grabbag on the secondary with Teapo SC's. 2200 uF/105C. I changed the Revo 85+ due to boredom. So you can guess. Not willing to ditch this one yet though, I replaced it's fan with a faster one as well and it's chuggin along (albeit loud but I don't care about noise).
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The cables that come pre-attached on the HCP make sense, if someone is going to buy a 1200 watt psu, then I am pretty sure, they are going to use those cables and more from the bag that it comes with.

Looks like both are pretty similar, I'd still choose the HCP simply because it has more rails for better distribution. Check this link out. It has everything that you guys are arguing about.

Just wait until the HCP platinum comes out, then we will see who is the clear winner of the platinum psus.
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The cables that come pre-attached on the HCP make sense, if someone is going to buy a 1200 watt psu, then I am pretty sure, they are going to use those cables and more from the bag that it comes with.
This is the same lame excuse that most reviewers make.
What about modders? those fixed cables are (1) ugly and (2) impossible to re-sleeve with something decent-looking.

Everyone has his quirks, and not fully modular is a no-no for me.
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The cables that come pre-attached on the HCP make sense, if someone is going to buy a 1200 watt psu, then I am pretty sure, they are going to use those cables and more from the bag that it comes with.

Looks like both are pretty similar, I'd still choose the HCP simply because it has more rails for better distribution. Check this link out. It has everything that you guys are arguing about.

Just wait until the HCP platinum comes out, then we will see who is the clear winner of the platinum psus.
Still wish I'd waited. Antec HCP-1200 comes w/ non-modular 2x4-pin, which I assume is for dual-cpu boards, which I don't have. So now it's sitting on the bottom of my case's interior...

Also, I don't want the OCN psu gurus laughing at me for overkill. That's right, I can hear you...listen, I had 2 MSI 580 LEs, I couldn't wait! And I wanted something better than the Corsair HX1000! I'm SORRY!
post #49 of 67
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The cables that come pre-attached on the HCP make sense, if someone is going to buy a 1200 watt psu, then I am pretty sure, they are going to use those cables and more from the bag that it comes with.
Modders like fully modular, and fully modular makes the unit easier to take the unit out of your case so you can clean it out.

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Looks like both are pretty similar, I'd still choose the HCP simply because it has more rails for better distribution. Check this link out. It has everything that you guys are arguing about.
Except that it's all Antec's marketing at work there. Havingly multiple 12v rails divided up intelligently is a good thing, but the HCP-1200 has trip points of 50A which makes them effectively useless.

Your standard pin will burn around 32A (through a single pin), so realistically, you'd want to have 30A on each rail to prevent such things from happening.

Either way, Antec's PSU myth's are marketing fluff for them.

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Just wait until the HCP platinum comes out, then we will see who is the clear winner of the platinum psus.
Antec said at Computex they have no plans to go Platinum.
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I have an Antec 750W PSU. It was built by Seasonic. I replaced it with a Seasonic 650W unit - because the Seasonic-branded unit was fully modular. Because my gpu is such a wimp that it uses zero PCIE plugs, I had extra cables with the Antec unit. No more.
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