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Originally Posted by BlackVenom View Post
So, uh, release BF3 on Steam?
Imo there was more chance of that happening vefore this whole debacle.

If they back down now it will lose them a lot of "face" for the not so cynical towards them, which is the majority of people.
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It's the same damn thing cookies do. Quit crying.
Cookies scan your entire harddrive and all its contents and report back on all those files to a server for said company to sell your info?
    
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Cookies scan your entire harddrive and all its contents and report back on all those files to a server for said company to sell your info?
Origin was never proved to report back ANY information it received from "scans." People went hysterical when they heard that Origin reads their hard drive, and simply assumed the data was sent somewhere.

As stated before, the client is in the AppData and Program Files folders looking for games when you first open the client. Hardly malicious.
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This is EA we are talking about. They may be telling the truth but I don't trust them.
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I love people saying they "Trust" google and Valve but not EA. Wow. So a company makes some products you like and seems nice so let's let them steal your information, but if EA does it, ****storm!

Yeah, I want to see actual evidence of it being spyware. Right now it's all smoke no fire.
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As stated before, the client is in the AppData and Program Files folders looking for games when you first open the client. Hardly malicious.
Except when it starts scanning your financial or other private information, right?

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I love people saying they "Trust" google and Valve but not EA. Wow. So a company makes some products you like and seems nice so let's let them steal your information, but if EA does it, ****storm!

Yeah, I want to see actual evidence of it being spyware. Right now it's all smoke no fire.
Good comparison, except you left the bit out about how Valve does not steal your information. You can choose to voluntarily participate in a hardware survey but that is it. Even in these surveys Steam doesn't go rummaging through your data. They only collect hardware data and if certain programs are installed, which doesn't involve rummaging through your files by the way. Origin goes rummaging through your data without even so much as asking you or prompting you.
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This is EA we are talking about. They may be telling the truth but I don't trust them.
Too bad not many people are informed about EA's past and how 'helpful' they are in supporting their consumers. Most seem to just run up with hands raised to hug ..
Edited by Renton81 - 11/1/11 at 11:50pm
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And sony never put rootkits in cds.
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Except when it starts scanning your financial or other private information, right?
Stop spreading misinformation.

The tax software was storing it's APPLICATION DATA in the AppData folder. Simply put, the guy freaked out when he saw something like "Quicken" flash past his screen in the process sniffer. AppData/Quicken doesn't store anything other than settings for the application.

Furthermore, all financial software stores information in encrypted databases. I doubt EA has a decryption team sitting around pulling apart people's data. That would be expensive and a HUGE waste of time for a company that publishes video games.

People are freaking out over nothing. Either way, if you have information you don't want anyone but you to see, make sure it's encrypted no matter what. A guy with a thumb drive and your idle computer is more dangerous than spyware could ever be.
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I purposely made some fake .xml's and docs with "personal information" and fake financial stuff. Pretty much made it as obvious as I could that it was the cream of the crop of personal information if they so desired to get it. Even the file names were over the top obvious. I put them in several different locations that Origin is known to scan as well as some others. It doesn't take very much time or effort to monitor each file and how often it is scanned, read, accessed, and sent with the right set of tools.

At no time did any of the files have any flags thrown up on them other than a simple general read of what I would assume to be the file name and/or extension. Not once were any sent(in full or partial) from what I could see. Anything that was sent period was way too small to be any of the docs I created as I purposely made them over-sized so that I could more easily tell if it had been sent. I tried this with about 20-25 different opening and closing's of Origin and leaving it running for various amounts of times.
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