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They preform great in bf3 with my 2500k I can play with most settings on ultra and 2xMSAA and get a constant 60 fraps with the exception of 1 multiplayer map. You can probably run everything maxed in the campaign with the 2 460's
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I dipped down to the 20s in the campaign. I think it's time to upgrade
my CPU.
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Originally Posted by drizek;15545470 
I dipped down to the 20s in the campaign. I think it's time to upgrade
my CPU.

No, YOU need more VRAM. BF3 with everything on high uses around 1G VRAM. Your sig rig shows yours 768mb. That is a HUGE difference.
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Quote:
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No, YOU need more VRAM. BF3 with everything on high uses around 1G VRAM. Your sig rig shows yours 768mb. That is a HUGE difference.

I do agree with the vram issue. 1gb is not really enough for 1080p on ultra. I use about 985MB according to afterburner and thats with only 2xMSAA and SSAO not HBAO. but sometimes my gpu only uses about 75% not 100% which is weird.

Also I cannot max out GTA 4 because of my limited VRAM.
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post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by drizek;15545351 
I'd like to see a tweak guide for slid 460s. I set mine on medium to get constant high frames, but I know I can handle more.

Honestly all I do is up it roughly about 50mhz at a time and test it with heaven benchmark
If it passes that it's good in my books
I could be wrong but that's what I do tongue.gif
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snag another card now and enjoy, otherwise your SLI capable board is for not. 2500K and SLI GTX460s will be a great system for years to come. Most people would probably be content to hold out on that rig until long past ivy and long past the 600 series.
     
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post #27 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by drizek;15545335 
Ok, then just wait for the better power consumption. Sli 460s use a ton of power.

What? confused.gif

SLI 460's will run flawlessly off a good quality 550w unit, and they'll hang up there with the GTX580 (beating it in most games). Yeah, they're TOTALLY power hungry. rolleyes.gif
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I dipped down to the 20s in the campaign. I think it's time to upgrade
my CPU.

x3 720, yeah its time to upgrade that CPU. A nice i5 2500k would do your system very nicely.
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Originally Posted by Fooxz;15545527 
No, YOU need more VRAM. BF3 with everything on high uses around 1G VRAM. Your sig rig shows yours 768mb. That is a HUGE difference.

If he's got a 768MB card, then yeah the 1GB cards are definitely a lot better. His x3 720 is still going to be holding SLI performance back though.
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I do agree with the vram issue. 1gb is not really enough for 1080p on ultra. I use about 985MB according to afterburner and thats with only 2xMSAA and SSAO not HBAO. but sometimes my gpu only uses about 75% not 100% which is weird.

Also I cannot max out GTA 4 because of my limited VRAM.

No, just no. 1GB is FINE for 1080p, especially when we're talking about $100 budget GPU's. The reason you get stuttering is because the GPU isn't enough, or SLI isn't functioning correctly. It has nothing to do with VRAM.

I maxed GTA IV out with a 1GB HD4890 just fine, never dropped below 30-35 FPS on it at 1080p. So no again.

BF3 has a memory leak, it'll use however much VRAM that's available. 1GB is enough if you have the GPU horsepower to back it up. You do realize that the recommended card is a 580, that means you should have more than a 580 to max it out. VRAM or not, that takes a HEFTY graphics card (560Ti's in SLI would be a good starting point). It's not a VRAM problem with BF3, its a memory leak issue.

At the OP:

Don't bother waiting. If you've got $100 now, grab another 460 1GB and enjoy your SLI now. There's always going to be something new coming out. No reason to play the waiting game. 460 1GB cards in SLI are still pretty beastly and will handle just about any game out there maxed at 1080p. You won't be able to pickup a new gen card for $100 when they come out, I can promise you that. So I say grab another and enjoy a huge boost in performance. smile.gif
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I don't get less than 65fps, average around 90, 1080p ultra ssao on my 460s, granted their heavily overclocked, but still.

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The vast majority of VRAM consumption on the really modern games is all texture information. The amount consumed by the frame buffer and AA is relatively small compared to the whole, regardless of resolution.

You'll see lots of people post 2.X GB of consumption on their 3GB card, and try to make the case that that means you need 2.X GB to play said game smoothly/properly or whatever. It's an incorrect interpretation of test results. When you have lots of VRAM, the GPU will leave textures stored in VRAM, even when they are long since gone from any of the surrounding area in game. If you play a game with 5GB worth of texture files, as you walk through that game, even the 3GB card will eventually fill up, but it doesn't matter because on the fly, as new textures are needed, it will flush the old and load up the new ones as needed. 1GB is enough to hold the amount of texture information needed to draw frames from VRAM in almost all cases. If you run into a game where you actually are running into VRAM limited lag issues, the solution is as simple as either turning down AA a notch or turning down the texture quality a notch. If you run higher resolution monitors it is wise to run lower AA settings to counterbalance VRAM consumption caused by the frame buffer size and AA.
     
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