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OK, here's the issue I'm having. I've a great set of Mushkin Redline 7-7-7-20 @ 1600 memory, and I just purchased a set of G.Skill 6-8-6-24 PI to compliment it. I'm not running anywhere near 1600mhz on my processor anymore, and I know for a fact that my redlines can handle 5-5-5-15 at 1333 with 12 hours prime95 stability. Here is the problem...

When I use either pair of sticks, be it the redlines or PI in a 2x2gb configuration, my PC will be fine. If I try to run them in 4x2gb I get memory errors no matter what I do... I've tried bumping the Memory, CPU, & CPU-NB voltages, switching DIMM slots, loosening timings (tried everything up to 7-8-7-24 @ 1333), etc but the PC will just get memory errors. All this is not unlocked or overclocked (running at stock everything, changing just one thing at a time, sometimes more than 1 with voltages, etc) but It refuses to be anything resembling stable... Is my processor just incapable of handling it or could it be my motherboard? Thanks for any insight.
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post #2 of 6
Have you tried to run memtest on each of the ram independently. You may have gotten or have some bad RAM. It could also be a faulty memory slot (controller). I'd verify all the RAM is solid with memtest before performing additional tests.
post #3 of 6
RAM is really picky, especially DDR3. From what I understand, ram needs to have the same frequency and latency or it can give you problems. I had RAM just different enough to keep me from posting.
Edited by victorzamora - 11/2/11 at 8:43am
 
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I had this problem on my old rig. Turns out the RAM has to have same latency and yada-yada. Basically when I upgraded from 4GB to 8GB I had to get paired RAM, for some reason I couldn't just add RAM so I bought a Paired set of RAM and wham no problem!
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I have to agree. DDR3 is picky. I suggest that if you want an 8gb kit, get an 8gb kit, dont get two 4 gig kits. However if you insist on getting a mix and match kit, It is in your best intrest to get identical kit's, even then there is still a chance it wont work. good luck
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I was afraid of them being picky.... I'll have to see if I can find someone wanting to trade sometime as I'd rather not return memory to newegg (I like the PI heatspreaders :-p). Thanks for the help everyone

EDIT: I'll ask one other fast question: Does anyone know of a 2x4gb kit that is 7-7-7-21 or faster on latencies @ stock? I searched newegg and all they had were 7-8-x-x or 7-9-x-x timing 2x4gb kits. Again, thanks for any info.
Edited by iamwardicus - 11/2/11 at 1:05pm
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AMD Zen Dream Rig
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Wifes Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Zen CPU (Dual socket if overclockable). Premium Asus AM4 motherboard most likely. Nvidia 16gb HBM2 1080 (when available) Nvidia 16gb HBM2 1080 (when available) 
GraphicsRAMRAMHard Drive
GTX 750ti  Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 ... Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 ... Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung MZ-M5E1T0BW  Samsung MZ-M5E1T0BW  Caviar Black 2tb LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Cryorig R1 Ultimate Noctua industrial 2000rpm Noctua industrial 2000rpm Noctua industrial 2000rpm 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Kryonaut TIM Sunbeamtech PL-RS-6 Rheosmart 6 Fan Controller Windows 10 Pro Samsung 40" 4k TV 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 34UM88-C ViewSonic 20" LED monitor Razer Blackwidow Stealth Seasonic or EVGA unit 850+ watts, minimum of Go... 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Thermaltake Core X9 Razer Mamba tournament Edition Gustard X20U DAC HiFiMan HE-560 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
ARX A2rx-c bookshelf speakers Gustard H10 Headphone Amp Sennheiser HD650 Marantz SR7000 Receiver 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570k Asus P8Z77-V EVGA GTX 480 Mushkin 993991 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 320GB Vertex 4 128gb Samsung 16x DVD Reader Noctua D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Edition Dell 2412 Logitech G510 Antec 650w Green 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
R4 Silent Razer Naga Rocketfish Mousepad 
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Xeon x5570 Xeon X5570 Dell T7500 Motherboard Asus Strix 970 
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24GB ECC 1333mhz DDR3 120gb Samsung 840 120 samsung 850 Samsung 120gb 850 
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240gb Kingston SSD 12x dvd burner Standard Cooling Fans for the chassis Windows 10 Professional 
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