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Originally Posted by Atham;15554875 
Were they easy to unlock Dysheeki?

My Sapphire HD 6950 Dirt3 was factory unlocked...
But not all Dirt3 cards can be unlocked its just a matter of luck.

Toxic, MSI, Sapphire Dirt3 cards are all a good buy tbh.
    
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Were they easy to unlock Dysheeki?

Yeah took 5 minutes all in all. Mine didn't come unlocked out of the box but still an easy operation smile.gif
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I will get the dirt 3 edition. It is 25 Euros cheaper then the toxic version, and it has two fans and a dual bios and a dirt 3 game with it. By Christmas prices may go down and I will get the toxic one.

Any other suggestions?

I am going to give you all a rep +1, guys. Thanks for chiming in.
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I will get the dirt 3 edition. It is 25 Euros cheaper then the toxic version, and it has two fans and a dual bios and a dirt 3 game with it. By Christmas prices may go down and I will get the toxic one.
Any other suggestions?
I am going to give you all a rep +1, guys. Thanks for chiming in.

Yeah ... NICE Choice, the DIRT3 card is IMO the BEST BUDGET DUAL BIOS card on the market, if yours UnLocks you can OC it as well and have performance that rivals any GTX-570, and often can bang heads against a GTX-580, for MUCH Less $$$ cool.gif

As for Unlocking your DIRT3 card once you get it, YES ... it's VERY SIMPLE ... just follow my ...
Step-by-Step Guide to Un-Locking a DUAL BIOS Card w/ Switch, Thanks to LA_Kings_Fan
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Step 1 - Install the card, turn on your computer and windows will most likely install the current driver before you can even install the CD software that came with the card.
Step 2 - You can install the CD software, but to be honest the WIN 7 driver the system auto loads for you should work too, so you could skip to Step 3 I guess ?
Step 3 - With things running, install GPU-Z and/or TriXX software or both ... then open the programs to review the Factory defaults of your card, note shaders and Core clocks etc.
Step 4 - In GPU-Z or TriXX SAVE your factory BIOS of the card. DO NOT SKIP THIS STEP. You might just need it in case something goes wrong and need to reinstall the factory BIOS file in case position #2 Unlocked BIOS FAILS, and flipping the switch back to position #1 won't reload the original BIOS for some reason. THIS shouldn't happen, but better SAFE and SAVED than sorry and SOL.
Step 5 - Shut Down Windows and turn off your Computer.
Step 6 - FLIP the little Dual BIOS switch near the back plate / SLI Bridge area to position #2.
Step 7 - Turn on Computer and reboot up.
Step 8 - Re-open TriXX and/or GPU-Z and check your Shaders ... if it's 1536, CONGRATS your card UNLOCKED and you have a HD-6970 now no BIOS FLASH required it's ON the card from Sapphire ... if it's still 1408, Bummer dude no Factory Un-Lock , you could still then try FLASHING it to Unlock it, but YES this can be slightly risky and CAN void your warranty if you BRICK the card by Flashing it, most likely you have a card that Will NOT unlock, remember it's NOT Guaranteed.
BEFORE .......... VS. .......... AFTER
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BINGO ! Unlocked 6950 ... IF your card is one of the LUCKY ONES, it's NOT GUARANTEED Remember !

Not ALL CAYMAN GPU chip's will Unlock ... but 0% of the ANTILLES GPU chips will ! and SOME DIRT3 cards have reported been shipped with the ANTILLES GPU chips on them, so ...

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In General the Sapphire HD-6950 DIRT3 edition has around a 33%-50% successful report of Unlocking, so it's not unusual IF yours doesn't unlock unfortunately.

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Also, Johnny Doe, dude YES you're right about alot of what you're saying ... HOWEVER, to FIND and buy a NEW REFERENCE HD-6950 ISN'T HAPPENING ANYMORE ! they are GONE ! He'd have to buy USED and obviously that has it's own set of risks, so the Rev2 Cards some of us are suggesting are actually JUST AS GOOD if NOT THE BETTER CHOICE because he can buy them NEW. So HONESTLY to keep telling people to BUY a REFERENCE HD-6950 is POINTLESS, there aren't ANY NEW ONES to be had anymore.

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Also, Johnny Doe, dude YES you're right about alot of what you're saying ... HOWEVER, to FIND and buy a NEW REFERENCE HD-6950 ISN'T HAPPENING ANYMORE ! they are GONE ! He'd have to buy USED and obviously that has it's own set of risks, so the Rev2 Cards some of us are suggesting are actually JUST AS GOOD if NOT THE BETTER CHOICE because he can buy them NEW. So HONESTLY to keep telling people to BUY a REFERENCE HD-6950 is POINTLESS, there aren't ANY NEW ONES to be had anymore.

In the U.S? Yes. In where the OP lives (Europe)? No. I found one, and I'm sure there're a few more.

And if you look hard enough, you still can find reference 6950 on local PC shops. So what I'm suggesting clearly isn't "pointless" when you can get a better quality board with dual Volterra 8-phase Digital PWM's for power against cheap Analog solutions, together with the highest chance to unlock.

No non-ref (Dirt/Toxic etc.) compare to reference in terms of PCB quality. Even if you buy used, the reference is still the highest quality make. These components don't age as you might think. The reference 6970 PCB is top quality card that can last for years. Non-ref solutions on the other hand fall much shorter in terms of component selection. They make it non-ref to cheap out. To get the bucks. (BTW, please don't type in all Purple as it might be irrirating to some.)

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Yeah not sure about that ill take MSI 6950 twin frozr III over ref 6950 any day granted this could a exception but its a damn good one regardless...this card is built to cool, and push power!

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post #27 of 44
Cooler, yes. However PCB doesn't compare. Look at the right side, VRM area. Low capacitance, high voltage caps put one after the other. Analog phases. While Digital PWM and high capacitance (less caps) with low volt on reference. Reference is even guaranteed to %90+ unlock. Reference is the best make (PCB) with their cards.
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yup I was lucky to be able to unlock:D but the hole choke/cap thing not so good, I have a basic understanding of the digital VRM design I have that on my CHVF, but followed reviews that said stuff like this before I got this card:

A 6+2 Phase PWM circuit is used with MSI's Military Class II technology, using Hi-C caps that offer less current leakage with improved stability, Super Ferrite chokes that offer a 30% improvement in current carrying capacity with a 10% improvement in efficiency, and aluminum capacitors for longer life, reduced ESR, cooler temperatures, and improved efficiency.

and figured this card had the REF card beat..not so?
 
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post #29 of 44
Yeah, TF's are solid. But still not quite as much as reference. Those are square, old Analog boxes (black) where the reference doesn't have any. Reference is fully Digital (the two shiny, silver colored modules). Volterra PWM. They really just go about cheaping out to get people's money. Mostly when they go non-ref. The reference PCB with these cards seems left to have the best design so far.

"8 phase Digital PWM provides more robust power delivery, standing up to the demands of enthusiasts and overclockers. This finely-tuned digital power management system operates with better power efficiency, a faster and more stable response to changes in power consumption, and higher output current capability to support extreme overclocking.

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right on know that makes sense! granted I did not purchase this card for longevity, I got it to OC the crap out of it
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SILVERSTONE SST-ST1000-G Evolution 1000W Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 6... 
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FX-8150 Asus Crosshair V Formula  MSI R6950 TWIN FROZR III PE OC MSI R6950 TWIN FROZR III PE OC 
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Mushkin Enhanced Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 160... Samsung 830 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB  LG Black Blu-ray Disc Combo UH10LS20 LightScribe  
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Asus DRW-24B1ST (Black) Noctua NH-D14  FANS x10 in details Microsoft Windows 7 Professional  
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Logitech M310 black one with a pad Bose Companion 3 Series II Scythe KM02-BK 5.25" Bay Fan Controller 
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Rosewill RCR-IC002 74-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Interna... Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2  Microsoft xbox 360 wireless controller Logitech Gaming Headset G930 
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Phenom II X 6 1090T Asus M4A785-M XFX Radeon HD 5750 G.Skill 2x2gb 800 
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Samsung Spinpoint  Sony DVD RW DRU-840A Stock AMD Windows 7 Pro x32  
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HP w1907 DELL COOLMAX CTI-600B 600W ATX12V Power Supply HP  
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Logitech Walmart special Creative Sound SBS250 
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