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post #1 of 26
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First of all, sorry for another generic GPU decision thread.

First off, take a look at my sig. My rig is basically average for gaming, and I am kind of wanting to buy a new one. Is it decent for now? Can it handle things like SWTOR and Skyrim (Both upcoming) decently? If so, I'll hold off for a bit on building a new one.

Anyway, let's get into the actual point of the thread, a new GPU.

I currently have an Nvidia Geforce GTS 450 1GB. Basically my GPU is the one thing I really want to upgrade soon so I can enjoy Skyrim on max settings.

I've been doing a ton of research, and can't decide which card to go with.

I've heard the Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti is a great card, but there is a re-fresh of the 560 Ti coming out this Holiday so if I were to get that I should probably hold off to get the better version of the 560 Ti. This brings us to the other card I'm looking at, the Radeon HD 6950.

I would probably get the 2gb variant, as it isn't much more expensive and I might as well. However, I see that it says PCI-E x16 2.1. Will it even work with my Mobo? I don't even think mine is considered a PCI-E x16 2.0, it just says "1x PCI-E x16", which my GTS 450 is currently in (I'd obviously replace it).

Now on the topic of the 6950 since I'm assuming that's what I should get right now as I don't want to wait for the re-fresh of the 560 Ti, which one should I get. I've been looking on Newegg and have narrowed it down to a couple.

The one that I'm leaning towards is the HIS IceQ. It looks like a great card, and improved cooling is great since my case is a default crappy one with bad airflow. (I know I should get a new case, but I'm going to build a new PC in the next few months so trying to hold off).

Are there any other 6950s that are good, or is the one mentioned above fine? And would it work in my standard PCI-E x16 (I'm assuming 1.0?) slot?

Thanks in advance guys. I know it's a lot of questions and information, but all help is heavily appreciated.
post #2 of 26
First, PCI-E 2.1 will work just fine with a 2.0 slot, nothing to worry about.

Second, I would try to find a Sapphire Toxic 6950, it performs very well with the BIOS in the 6970 setting and it probably the fastest out of the cards you are choosing between.
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post
First, PCI-E 2.1 will work just fine with a 2.0 slot, nothing to worry about.

Second, I would try to find a Sapphire Toxic 6950, it performs very well with the BIOS in the 6970 setting and it probably the fastest out of the cards you are choosing between.
Regarding the slot, I think you slightly misunderstood. I'm not even sure if it's a 2.0 slot. I think it might be 1.0, because all it says for the label is "PCI-E x16". Would the 6950 work fine in that?
post #4 of 26
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Regarding the slot, I think you slightly misunderstood. I'm not even sure if it's a 2.0 slot. I think it might be 1.0, because all it says for the label is "PCI-E x16". Would the 6950 work fine in that?
If it fits, it will work is the general rule of thumb with PCI-E. At what speed, well a PCI-E 1.0 X16 slot is about equal to a PCI-E 2.0 x8 slot for bandwidth but it won't bother a single 6950 or 560ti at all.

Besides that, the MS-7501 (if that is the board you're using) is PCI-E 2.0 compliant, you should be good to go.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post
If it fits, it will work is the general rule of thumb with PCI-E. At what speed, well a PCI-E 1.0 X16 slot is about equal to a PCI-E 2.0 x8 slot for bandwidth but it won't bother a single 6950 or 560ti at all.

Besides that, the MS-7501 (if that is the board you're using) is PCI-E 2.0 compliant, you should be good to go.
It is indeed the board I'm using, but it doesn't say 2.0 anywhere, only "PCI-E x16", which is odd if it was 2.0.

I'm starting to think with my only average rig now (once great), I should just build a new rig. Argh. I don't know.
post #6 of 26
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It is indeed the board I'm using, but it doesn't say 2.0 anywhere, only "PCI-E x16", which is odd if it was 2.0.

I'm starting to think with my only average rig now (once great), I should just build a new rig. Argh. I don't know.
Does it look like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130174
post #7 of 26
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Yes it does. How'd you know? It doesn't say 7501 anywhere, haha. *Edit* On Newegg, that is.
Edited by zorphon - 11/2/11 at 7:21pm
post #8 of 26
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Yes it does. How'd you know? It doesn't say 7501 anywhere, haha. *Edit* On Newegg, that is.
Haha its fine, I just googled it 7501-whatever is the part number, K9A2VM is the model . So now you know, it is PCI-E 2.0. If you were looking for more than one GPU I would be concerned about your CPU keeping up, as that would be the next weakest link. Is it OC'd any?
post #9 of 26
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Haha its fine, I just googled it 7501-whatever is the part number, K9A2VM is the model . So now you know, it is PCI-E 2.0. If you were looking for more than one GPU I would be concerned about your CPU keeping up, as that would be the next weakest link. Is it OC'd any?
No it isn't. It's stock 2.8ghz Phenom II X4 920 quad. I would OC if it wasn't for the fact that my case is very poor. I should probably get a new case, but I don't know how to transfer everything over and it seems very time consuming. Not to mention, I have no idea which case to get with so many options. I am only planning on getting a single 6950 at this point.
post #10 of 26
I would go for it then, the GTS 450 is not a very fast card at all. If nothing else, you can upgrade the rest of your system later and still have a fast GPU.

Transferring components between cases is not very hard, just need a screwdriver and a spare hour or two. If you need help with it, don't hesitate to PM me and I can help walk you through it.
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