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Maybe I'm missing something here , but since Ivy bridge is coming out quite a bit earlier than the Sandy bridge-E cpus......why don't we have any kind of a spec sheet on them?

I see quite a bit of info on the SB-E cpu's with the X3930 and X3960 and so forth.....but hardly anything on the Ivy bridge cpu's? Supposed to be something like a 36% performance gain over the 2600K chips? ( the X chips )

But really nothing on the IB chips? Why is that? The only thing I can find is what they are going to call them.....Z77, Z75, H77, Q77, Q75 and B75 ?

No info though I guess? If the SB-E cpu's are going to boast a whopping 36% performance over the legendary 990X......what the heck are the IB cpu's going to be able to do? Just wondering if they will be that much better than a 2600K?

Oh well.......I'll build a 2600K rig now.....and upgrade to an X3xxx chip of some kind next year......after I sell my right arm.
    
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I think you have it backwards. SB-E is coming out before IB.
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from what ive read they are maybe 10% gain i think its mostly a transistor change and more energy efficient way
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This is where I found the 36% performance thread >>> http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/i...r-than-i7-990x

It was linked from here in the intel cpu sticky thread. Also , Nick , I did see the road map there , and I guess IB is coming out around Mar/April 2012.....I had it backwards.

Even with that though.....if SB-E is right around the corner.....why don't we see any actual tests on them? About 2 months before release I take it......maybe they'll wait until really close to launch?

This is another thing I don't quite get. Since the SB-E chips are a LGA 2011 cpu......why call them Sandy bridge extremes? They should have swapped the names of Ivy Bridge and Sandy bridge-E if you think about it. Ivy is 1155.....which follows the regualr sandy bridge socket......the SB-E cpus are starting something completely new ( LGA 2011 ).....but they call them sandy bridge extremes.....how friggin' confusing can Intel get?
    
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This is where I found the 36% performance thread >>> http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/i...r-than-i7-990x

It was linked from here in the intel cpu sticky thread. Also , Nick , I did see the road map there , and I guess IB is coming out around Mar/April 2012.....I had it backwards.

Even with that though.....if SB-E is right around the corner.....why don't we see any actual tests on them? About 2 months before release I take it......maybe they'll wait until really close to launch?

This is another thing I don't quite get. Since the SB-E chips are a LGA 2011 cpu......why call them Sandy bridge extremes? They should have swapped the names of Ivy Bridge and Sandy bridge-E if you think about it. Ivy is 1155.....which follows the regualr sandy bridge socket......the SB-E cpus are starting something completely new ( LGA 2011 ).....but they call them sandy bridge extremes.....how friggin' confusing can Intel get?
that says 36% over the 990x not 2600k
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This is where I found the 36% performance thread >>> http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/i...r-than-i7-990x

It was linked from here in the intel cpu sticky thread. Also , Nick , I did see the road map there , and I guess IB is coming out around Mar/April 2012.....I had it backwards.

Even with that though.....if SB-E is right around the corner.....why don't we see any actual tests on them? About 2 months before release I take it......maybe they'll wait until really close to launch?

This is another thing I don't quite get. Since the SB-E chips are a LGA 2011 cpu......why call them Sandy bridge extremes? They should have swapped the names of Ivy Bridge and Sandy bridge-E if you think about it. Ivy is 1155.....which follows the regualr sandy bridge socket......the SB-E cpus are starting something completely new ( LGA 2011 ).....but they call them sandy bridge extremes.....how friggin' confusing can Intel get?
First off, the E in SB-E doesn't actually mean anything. The full name is Sandy Bridge-E. Period. Secondly, SB refers to the architecture of the chip, not the socket. SB-E is simply an extension of the SB architecture to support more features, and those extra features require more pins. Ivy Bridge is the die-shrink of SB.

Basically, you have to understand Intel's release cycle. They use a "tick-tock" release cycle:

First (the tick), the release a new architecture on an existing process (in the case of SB, that was 32nm). Then (the tick), the shrink that architecture to a new process (in the case of SB, the die shrink is IB on 22nm process).
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Ahhh....I see. At least i think I do? gets pretty dang confusing for a nwer guy trying to catch up. I've read so much on about every single piece of hardware out there.....that my brain is starting to flicker. Thanks for the info and description Nick and Knoxy.
    
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Ahhh....I see. At least i think I do? gets pretty dang confusing for a nwer guy trying to catch up. I've read so much on about every single piece of hardware out there.....that my brain is starting to flicker. Thanks for the info and description Nick and Knoxy.
No worries. I went through the same think about three months ago. The jump from 755 to 1155 is staggering. Not only do you have this darn fangled now CPU architecture, but we've gone through so many GPU architectures that when it came time to pick a GPU my mind was spinning.

You'll get what you need, eventually. And Crysis on full settings at 60+FPS will stop that flicker rrrreeeeaaaalll fast.
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Intel's system is to have two sockets; Mainstream (1156/1155) and enthusiast (1366/2011). The code names you are hearing refer to the architecture. Intel follow a tick (die shrink) tock (new micro-architecture) release system.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rRoadmap-3.svg
 
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Also, I think the Z77, H77, Q77, and B75 type titles sound ore like chipsets to me than processor numbering. For example, current chipsets are P67, H67, and Z68.
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