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Recently ive decided to take my business to the next level and create a business plan for investors. I calculated the price for tech/design stations but im lost in the cost or suggestions for server side backups and files. So my question is, what do you guys suggest?? It will be an onsite setup, rackmount servers, but im looking to FTP customer files, templates, order forms, customer information and in-house build programs. I would like suggestions on off-site storage backup and cost. Any ideas or suggestions would be great in helping me write my business plan.
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What kind of data bulk are we looking at? Gigabytes? Terabytes? Petabytes?
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Also depends if you want this on-site or at a colocation.

For on-site, I'd talk to Dell, IBM and/or HP to get a quote on what you want to do. I don't see doing this by yourself for business purposes. Are you familiar with networking?

For colocation, same thing, look for companies.

This will give you an idea on cost.

Oh and if you were thinking of petabytes worth of data, check this out : http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/07/20...-more-secrets/
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@OP

Agree with Jono: whiteboxing isn't an option for this. The likes of Dell, HP and Lenovo are the go-to options for something like this.

In basic terms, you'll likely need:

1) at least one file server to serve the workstations
2) at least one backup server to back up the main server and the workstations
3) a tape drive to archive the data off the backup server. It might also be an idea to run a Virtual Tape Library on the backup server to speed up backups, before spooling it off to physical tape.

No doubt the workstations are connected to the server via 1Gbit/s Ethernet. I would advocate a separate, private 1Gbit/s or 10Gbit/s Ethernet switch and adapters between the file server and the backup server, for performance reasons (don't buy Dell managed switches though, they suck by all accounts). Failing that, look at Infiniband; it's far cheaper than 10GigE at the moment.

As far as back-up software is concerned, there are many options. Personally, I would take a look at Zmanda. It's based on the Amanda open source back up software, is incredibly flexible, can talk to Amazon S3 and comes with commercial support.

Speaking of S3, it's a good option for off-site backup. I'd say you need two basic things in place first though. 1) encryption of data BEFORE transport to S3 (so that it lands encrypted) and 2) a bloody fast pipe to transport those terabytes.

Question: how many workstations are we talking here? I ask to try and get an idea of the load on the file server. You may need to look at a clustered file system if the load is too high for one server.
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10 design/work stations 2 POS stations, 2 rip/print stations

still debating the servers

EDIT:
I thought of having a FTP for the 10 work stations in a RAID 5 array setup with 4 1TBs and then add a perc card to it later on with more drives in RAID 5. The rip stations are only computers to run a software for color calibration and running the job to the printers. The POS Systems might log to a server that holds all the files/orders.
Edited by graphicsman - 11/7/11 at 6:24am
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"Measure twice, cut once". If you get it right now, you won't have headache later. PERCs cannot talk to each other, or to any other card, so merging two arrays means using some kind of volume management software.

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I thought of having a FTP for the 10 work stations...
Why FTP? You have easier management (and likely better performance) using a distributed file system protocol like NFS of CIFS.

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The POS Systems might log to a server that holds all the files/orders.
So they need to talk to a server machine running a database application of some kind? On a related note, what OS will the workstations run? What OS do you plan on running on the server(s)?
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FTP will hold the files from the workstations, then be pulled on the print servers to rip the design. All PCs will have windows 7 64 bit pro and windows server 2008. Debating another server setup for active domain (need to learn it) but i have an IT guru in talks with about setting everything up
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So the workstation users will have to upload their work onto the server using FTP? Why not just share an area on the server via CIFS, where the workstations and the print stations can put and pull the files, respectively? At least then you can implement things like single sign-on and permissions.

I can see FTP being a pain to manage, seriously.
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better suggestions??
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