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In my opinion nearly 50% more cost for gtx 580 definitely not worth extra 4-6 Fps, i'd probably buy 580 over 570 if it was like $50 more but with current price gap between 2 - no way it worth it.
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post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by marduk666 View Post
they can charge that price that why and this is the fastest single Gpu so until a Gpu beat the 580GTX the price will be the same .
Hehe there must be a lot of truth to that. I'll only be suckered in by performance, not marketing!

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Originally Posted by Hindsight View Post
Benchmarks aside, if you read the reviews and tests, like those from Anandtech, etc, the 580 does more than just a few % over the 570. Depending on the game and resolution, it is generally a minimum of 10FPS faster last time I looked (especially at lower resolutions).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4051/n...-in-the-gaps/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4051/n...-in-the-gaps/5
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4051/n...-in-the-gaps/6
etc

Will you be able to tell the difference? Possibly in some games where it gets really intensive and the 570 slows down to below 30fps while the 580 stays above. Is it worth the extra money? It's all relative I guess. How long are you planning on keeping the card, etc. I hold my cards for 3 years minimum, and for me, the difference between a 570 and 580 was only $90 USD, plus I got the arctic vga cooler included with the card at that price. So in that situation, yes, its worth it. But 140 pounds extra for a 580 vs 570? That wouldn't be worth it to me no.
What I see there is what I've been thinking about - 8 FPS difference on average. Decent but not sure it's worth £142 extra (about $228). An overclocked 570 should match this, surely!?
Then again, where does an overclocked 580 go?
I think on average I keep a graphics card for about two years before I look to upgrade.

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In my opinion nearly 50% more cost for gtx 580 definitely not worth extra 4-6 Fps, i'd probably buy 580 over 570 if it was like $50 more but with current price gap between 2 - no way it worth it.
Yeah those were my thoughts when I bought the 570, especially with overclocking involved.

I think I might take a pass on the 580. The price difference is a piss-take when MSI Afterburner should allow me to close the gap for free.
    
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post #13 of 18
Anover clocked 570 is a match for a stock 580. Much better value but if you are playing above 1920x1200 you might need the vram a 580 has or 6970 for that mater.

They charge so much because it is the "best".
post #14 of 18
The 570 is fine and for the price difference in Australia anyway isn't worth it. unless you play at high resolutions (higher than 1080p) than a 580 wont be 'needed'.

Down the round when the 570's get cheaper buy another one and SLI, they will equate to the same price as one 580 but will beat it in performance.

Anyway that is what I plan to do ^, it will be the same price as one 580 in $AUD but I will be happy when I resell them later.
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It's a pretty standard thing in the tech industry. Price does not scale linearly with performance. You pay a huge premium for that extra bit of oomph, so the best value is generally not to be had in the flagship product.
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post #16 of 18
Yea, I think for you the price difference is just too much. I bought both of my 580's used. Over here in the US I bought one for $380 in March and the second just this month for $350, but for you that is a huge difference between the two.
post #17 of 18
I too wanted to upgrade to a 580.

Although it is $150 more.... for that much I can almost get another 570 that comes really close to the 570 in every SLI benchmark.

Don't get me wrong, the 580 is a good card, but upgrading is not worth it. Just overclock and SLI.
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post #18 of 18
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Yeah, seems to be the general feeling that going from a 570 to a 580 isn't worth it when the price difference is a whopping £142. Thanks for all your opinions!
I will save myself the money and just overclock the 570 nicely. I can't really SLI two of the same as this is the massive three-slot Asus DirectCU II version but it doesn't really matter as I don't like SLI/Crossfire setups.
    
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