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Originally Posted by allupinya View Post
if you think humans can destroy this planet, let alone destroy it with CO2; Im sorry but you are awfully mistaken.

Everything was fine before we got here, and everything will be fine when we're all dead and gone.

This is just propaganda to push gores carbon credit legislation through.



/facepalm

There's more than enough resources to go around, war is not about oil... it's about the people in power and their political agenda.

pretty soon exhaling will be a enviro problem and what about the trees? we dont want to starve them of CO2...
Thanks for facepalming when I am very well aware of what's going on. Look up why deals were signed with middle eastern countries where we agreed not to drill the oil we have here on US soil and keep buying oil from them and in return they would buy US bonds. Of course it's all political agendas, but then we're gonna get this thread closed if we start talking about that.
    
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post #42 of 225
The amount of co2 will only increase as population grows.

shutting down coal plants and taxing won't do anything but hurt econ.

Best way to combat is to plant trees because they produce oxygen with it.

and last but not least its not that harmful and is reqired for life
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BTW, the Earth is not round.
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Originally Posted by Iroh View Post
Meh, twas only a few hundred thousand years ago and the overall level of CO2 in the atmosphere was many times higher than it is now and far more than anything mankind could throw into it. The oceans thanks to this geological cool spell have dissolved just an incredible amount of the stuff. Not as cool as an ice age, but cool.

People forget that if the sun goes into a hot streak the oceans' ability to hold the gas goes way down and the heating causes it to release into the atmosphere. That, or most people never studied chemistry.
Clearly it is all our fault just because we happen to emit a small fraction of the CO2 present in our atmosphere. :sarcasm:

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People get two things mixed up: harmless CO2 and toxic gases. CO2 does not fall under toxic/harmful category. Yes indeed, all you green movement people should be worried about making sure enough trees are planted instead of making CO2 look like evil.
Something needs to be done about the toxins, not the minute (by comparison to its other sources/natural occurrence rate) amount of CO2 we generate I agree.

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1. No, this part is wrong. CO2 is part of a normal ecosystem. Everything alive exhales it, and with higher CO2 levels, plants grow larger, filtering out MORE CO2. It actually balances out very nicely.

2. The problem is that cars/factories/etc. all put out more CO2, and we're getting RID of plants, rather than letting there be more of them.

3. Also all the chemicals and such arent great for the environment either.

4. In addition, depending on where you live, your computer might be running of Solar, Wind or Hydro-electric power - ALL environmentally friendly and renewable resources.



5. I believe statistically, if we could harness all the suns power that only hits OUR planet in 1 minute, we could power EVERYTHING for a year. We dont even need to remotely reach this goal. If we can get that much power out of 11 months, rather than 1 minute, we're still good.

6. Also nuclear fission. Done properly it SHOULD just give us Iron in the end (which is harmless).
1. Not every living thing has lungs, and not every living thing survives on O2 and expels CO2- see plants.

2. 'Getting rid of plants' (I suspect you mean deforestation) isn't precisely wise, I'll give you that. However the amount of CO2 humanity has produced is significantly less than cow flatulence has produced, and that's statistically accurate!

3. Chemicals and nature don't usually mix well, true. However we aren't just spewing them everywhere since there are many regulations in place to prevent that in most of the developed world today.

4. All of those means of power generation are costly, and grossly inefficient. Though they are implemented to some degree- they provide VERY little of our energy and are usually the result of wasteful government funding.

5. The sun is a huge ball of nuclear fusion like any star. Some of the energy said fusion produces does reach earth and can be harnessed. In order to capture all of the energy the sun produces in a day we would have to blanket the whole of the earths surface in %100 efficient solar panels. Since covering a 365th. of the earth alone in solar panels is too resource-intensive and impractical we need to get over the fact that solar energy will never be a viable alternative to things like nuclear. If we did cover a 365th. of the earth in %100 solar panels (to supply all the power we need for one day every day at our current energy consumption levels) that would be great. However solar panels now (and it seems in the near future) are dreadfully inefficient. So we would need to cover far more than one 365th. of earth (a LOT more) to rely entirely on the sun for our energy needs.

6. Nuclear fission done properly ought to leave us with abundant cheap energy. Oh wait, it does! Nuclear fusion done correctly may leave us with less harmful byproducts, though. Modern fast-breeder reactors are highly efficient, safe, and consume very little stable non-enriched fuel per watt.
 
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All I gotta say:
SCAM OF THE CENTURY.

Really though, what a brilliant idea. Get the entire world to feel guilty for ruining our planet, get them to pay so they feel better about themselves and start the whole eco/green culture. The funny thing is years ago right before we started talking about global warming, "scientists" were trying to scare us with ice age until they realized the temperatures were actually climbing, and it turned into global warming and greenhouse BS.
    
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Originally Posted by matrix2000x2 View Post
Even if the Earth can take the CO2, you are not thinking about the rest of fossil fuels we are burning, such as coal. Coal is extremely dirty, and in a country such as China, where coal burning plants are built with such low standards, the emissions and pollution is produces, at the amount it is produced, is detrimental to the world's health. How do you think mercury ends up in fish? So consider this, would you want all the fish to die? What are you going to eat? Industry cattle farming is also extremely harmful to the environment, the run off seeps into ground water, we have to drink that.
"the emissions and pollution is produces, at the amount it is produced, is detrimental to the world's health."

Proof? You just spat out ALOT of bs based on what? Something you heard on CNN? Wrong... and how are you even going to compare "China destroying the world with their CHEAP ELECTRICITY", "poison fish" and "cattle farming"...

All completely unrelated...

btw coal is great! sucks they are shutting down more US coal plants EVERYDAY because there is so much in our country! The more they close the more expensive your bills get, plain and simple.
Edited by allupinya - 11/3/11 at 10:29pm
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Somewhere Al Gore is lighting up a cigar, job well done.
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if you think humans can destroy this planet, let alone destroy it with CO2; Im sorry but you are awfully mistaken.

Everything was fine before we got here, and everything will be fine when we're all dead and gone.

This is just propaganda to push gores carbon credit legislation through.



/facepalm

There's more than enough resources to go around, war is not about oil... it's about the people in power and their political agenda.

pretty soon exhaling will be a enviro problem and what about the trees? we dont want to starve them of CO2...
Hey moron,its not weather the earth will survive,of coarse it will.It's about if the future conditions will support 7 billion people. When the **** hits the fan I suppose you think that you should be one of the deserving few who decides who eats and who starves.
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post #49 of 225
If u are concerned about co2 find a gun and kill your self because u breath it out


Over population is another fraud
we are barely using a fraction of land mass

problem is, humans tend to consolidate into compact areas much like schools of fish
Edited by finalturismo - 11/3/11 at 10:34pm
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Ya, we can thank our president for that, not his exact words but something along the lines of "You can build coal plants, but we'll tax you so much you'll go bankrupt and you'll have to shut them down".
Way to go! Our power grid already sucks enough as it is. Coal is pretty clean in modern plants with multiple filtering phases etc. Of course they use Chinese substandard plants as an example to make coal look bad in general.
    
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