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thx for so much comment , so i may just go for simple build , i3 plus h67 and keep money for ivy core and pcl3.0 graphic build in future ,thx alot .so now lets us discuss about graphic card , which one is better for money ? Does gtx 550 ti enough if play game like battlefield in average setting .you can suggest ati gpu too , i willing to consider both company product , Money is problem , i probably just spent around 150~220 usd on gpu
For your graphics card budget, I would go with either an HD6870 or GTX560, depending on what games you play. You could also wait for AMD's Southern Islands cards to come out late this year (hopefully).

PCI-e 3.0 isn't important right now. None of the graphics cards we have right now even come close to maxing out the bandwidth on a PCI-e 2.0/2.1 slot.

Also, if you ever plan on trying your hand at overclocking, you'll want either a P67 or Z68 board, not H67.
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Yes, overclocking makes a difference. I took the liberty of making a build for you for best performance per $ ratio which comes around to $1,177.68 before shipping.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119225 (You can change this if you like.)

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127588

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231308

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131771

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

BOOT SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148447 (You don't need one but it will make a big difference.)

CPU COOLER: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835181017 (You could go for a cheaper high quality air cooler if you wish.)

We would be more than happy to help you overclock as it stands this is the best bang for buck.

You don't necessarily have to buy from Newegg but it's a great template of what you should be looking for.

Edit: forgot about storage HDD's you might want to wait for those to drop down in price since the recent flooding.
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Sorry for a stupid question , that 4.0ghz compare to 3.1 ghz can make what different ?does it affect game performance?
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Sorry for a stupid question , that 4.0ghz compare to 3.1 ghz can make what different ?does it affect game performance?
If you're running a 6870/560 level graphics card on a 1080p monitor, you won't notice a big difference.
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Sorry for a stupid question , that 4.0ghz compare to 3.1 ghz can make what different ?does it affect game performance?
If you want quality gaming that's the build to go with my friend. For older games it won't make that much of a difference, but for newer games it's pretty noticeable. You could easily run that i5 2500k at 4.5GHz at least with that H100. I know it's probably a bit more expensive but you pay for quality.

edit: I've edited the build it comes to your budget of 1.3k
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thx for so much comment , so i may just go for simple build , i3 plus h67 and keep money for ivy core and pcl3.0 graphic build in future ,thx alot .so now lets us discuss about graphic card , which one is better for money ? Does gtx 550 ti enough if play game like battlefield in average setting .you can suggest ati gpu too , i willing to consider both company product , Money is problem , i probably just spent around 150~220 usd on gpu
ATI 6870 as well us a good card for under 200. 550ti wont be future proffered enough

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If you're running a 6870/560 level graphics card on a 1080p monitor, you won't notice a big difference.
Then how does overclock to high hz make different ? This question is kinda stupid but i just wondering since so many people go above 4.x ghz
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If you want quality gaming that's the build to go with my friend. For older games it won't make that much of a difference, but for newer games it's pretty noticeable. You could easily run that i5 2500k at 4.5GHz at least with that H100. I know it's probably a bit more expensive but you pay for quality.
I think the H100 is overkill for him. He doesn't need a quad-core SB overclocked past 4.5GHz since he'll only be running a single mid-range GPU. Even stock cooling can take the 2500K past 4.0GHz, but I think the i3 2100 is a better match. Having the option to swap Sandy out for Ivy makes the 2500K a bit less tempting, I think.

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Then how does overclock to high hz make different ? This question is kinda stupid but i just wondering since so many people go above 4.x ghz
For gaming, a faster CPU will help if your system is being bottlenecked by the CPU. If you're only running one mid-range GPU at 1080p, most games will be bottlenecked by the GPU. On the other hand, if you're running something extreme like a Triple SLI or CFX configuration at the same resolution, you'll need a faster CPU to feed those cards.
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Then how does overclock to high hz make different ? This question is kinda stupid but i just wondering since so many people go above 4.x ghz
When you game at high resolution you need higher cpu clocks.
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Then how does overclock to high hz make different ? This question is kinda stupid but i just wondering since so many people go above 4.x ghz
In all honesty you won't unless you start playing newer games. Overclocking wont blow you away for what you want to do. Most overclock because we can

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I think the H100 is overkill for him. He doesn't need a quad-core SB overclocked past 4.5GHz since he'll only be running a single mid-range GPU. Even stock cooling can take the 2500K past 4.0GHz, but I think the i3 2100 is a better match. Having the option to swap Sandy out for Ivy makes the 2500K a bit less tempting, I think.
As I have stated that's the best he can do in that price range and also stated he could swap it out for a decent air cooler. If he does not plan on upgrading soon this build will last him with that cpu and 6950 2gb.
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