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Ouch!
R152/month for phone line and DSL alone, that's without data. ~$20.
R245/month for 8GB of data, ~$30.

$50/month for not being able to stream youtube videos at 360p, and a 120mb file takes an hour to download.

Best part is, there's nothing I can do about it. Prices like that don't change around SA because there's only one phone line operator in the country and they've become a monopoly.
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I pay $70 for the same 5 mbit/s connection speeds in Canada, what are you paying?
$35 plus they force you to buy their even more expensive TV package which doesn't have a single HD or movie channel. You cant just buy internet. Its all or nothing.
I rarely even watch TV anymore when the free version of Hulu has new episodes of the the TV shows I watch a week before its on any of the channels that I get.
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$35 plus they force you to buy their even more expensive TV package which doesn't have a single HD or movie channel. You cant just buy internet. Its all or nothing.
I rarely even watch TV anymore when the free version of Hulu has new episodes of the the TV shows I watch a week before its on any of the channels that I get.
Yea, that is the worst of all, making you have to buy those stupid packages. At least ATT lets you only get internet.

I think in the last 5 years before I got rid of my land line the only people that called it was telemarketers and political campaign calls. And then tv? Come on, with fast enough internet, I can watch anything I want to on the computer.

For how much I use the internet, I would have no problem paying $150+ a month for a wideband or fiber optic connection, but its not even an option in my area, which sucks because I live in what would be considered a pretty nice neighborhood, I think. People around here could totally afford it if it was available.
post #34 of 44
As others have said countless times, internet speeds are advertised in bits, not bytes (maybe to make them seem faster?). Since one byte is eight bits, generally you take the advertised number, divide it by eight, and that's the more "normal" speed you can expect. If you want an easy way to remember it, that's the Golden rule; divide by eight.

5 divided by 8 is 0.625, and I think there's generally some overhead too, so ~600Kb/s sounds exactly right. I had a 6Mb/s connection at my last place, and I generally got ~690Kb/s-ish during downloads, not quite the 750Kb/s it comes up to according to math, but there's other factors involved.

Edit: I'm not sure how much you're paying after the TV gets added to the equation, but $35 for a consistent (if it's DSL) 5Mb/s line is not that bad.
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At least you don't have concealed quota over there. And if that's an ADSL line over conventional copper wires, you'll never get max speed which is 640KB because of how ADSL works.

Here's a worse example: I pay roughly 60$ for a 8Mb/1Mb adsl. However I never reached even 800 KB. It's always around 600 and rarely 700, it's like a 5Mb line. Now, the funny part, isn't there other options ? No :/ All other options are all "upto" 8Mb with Quotas. And by their new policy all of their "upto" 8Mb Quota-less services have 15GB hidden quota, when you reach it in a month, your speed drops to 512Kb So im paying for a real quota-less 5-ish 8Mb line

Where's this ? Turkey The most expensive gas and internet charging country
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TLDR thread;
Your broadband is operating as intended.

Line speed / 8 = "download" speed
8 bits in a byte.
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Companies will always quote a figure that sounds more enticing - it's the same for monitors...they always quote GTG response instead of BTB, and always quote 'dynamic' contrast ratios instead of actual. Same with hard drives.

For reference, there are 8 bits in a byte, and if you want to be confused even more, the most typical use of the word 'bytes' means that 'kilobytes' (KB) and 'megabytes' (MB) are not multiples of bytes.

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Besides the stuff that's already been mentioned about the bit/bytes conversion and the fact that you are in fact getting what it's advertised,

There are a lot of factors that go into your final connection speed. I had the same connection for 3 years at 6Mbps but mines was advertised at 20. However I had an ADSL connection and because the ISP's hub was far and because of how ADSL works as has been mentioned before I think, the speed slowed down, for me significantly.

I'm not sure how things are where you live but see if you can get a satellite connection to the internet
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to answer the title, if you live in the US the answer is YES, you are being ripped off.
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To confirm, ISPs give rates in MegaBITS. A megabit is eight times the size of a megaBYTE. Divide your 5MB/s by 8 and get about 600KB/sec.
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