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Intel FTW!
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post #12 of 49
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Originally Posted by langer1972 View Post
Well if you get a 1156 socket MB and a i2500K you can upgrade to Ivy Bridge on the same MB when it comes out.Just a thought.
1155 not 1156 . Only the second gen ( 1155 ) mobos will support Ivy .
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i'm an amd guy as well (hence the sig rig name) switched from 1090T to an i7 950 and the performance gain was really huge. didn't think I bottlenecked my gtx 480 SLi that much. it's an older i7 so the new sandybridge will definitely be better. intel is better right now. still hoping that the second revision of bulldozer will fix the problems the first one had
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Originally Posted by Darkslayer7 View Post
1155 not 1156 . Only the second gen ( 1155 ) mobos will support Ivy .
My bad.
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post #15 of 49
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Originally Posted by gabead View Post
Dull? No it isn't I am not doing anything really different that I was doing with my 1090T. Both AMD and Intel has things to disable in bios. Both are using multipliers and voltage and both hardly ever use FSB anymore.
My PhenomII is clocked using the FSB, it gave me a more perky machine than using multipliers. I went from 20x200 to 16x250 and liked it. I want to have that option personally. Sadly the only recent releases to allow that are all AMD, and AMD just doesn't have the performance to compete.

I personally like having people debating what combination of FSB and multi gives the best results, it makes clocking more interesting. Intel killing FSB clocking for SB was the worst thing they could have done IMHO.
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intel

ive never been on a quicker pc then mine its a rocket, used friends 1090s and they felt like i was treading through custard!
post #17 of 49
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Originally Posted by allikat View Post
The only downsides to Intel are cost (If you're outside the USA) and the fact that clocking it is dull. Just add a bit of voltage here and there, and wind up the multiplier as far as it's stable to go. The performance is all in Intel's court right now.
Cost?

$180 2500k is expensive?
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post #18 of 49
the $215 price tag on the 2500k justifies the performance.
IMO a PII X6 is not worth the price tag of $180 when you don't get a really good performance increase like you would with a 2500k, however if you get a 960T and successfully unlock it that is most definitely worth the price of $115 (newegg)
post #19 of 49
In the grand scheme of things, there really aren't any *bad* CPUs available right now. Anything in the latest gen from either company is priced reasonably well for the available performance margins if buyers select their CPU to fit their application properly. Perhaps the only thing not priced properly at the moment is the FX series BD chips, which, like most "new" tech, is usually introduced at price points above true value in order to bank on buyers who are more about the new and less about the value.

I realize a lot of people in this thread are claiming massive noticeable performance gains having departed from an AMD based Phenom II chip to an intel SB chip. I suspect a lot of that is more related to the sugar pill premise than actual performance differences. While the performance differences are very real in benchmarks and recorded times (by up to around 40% compared core for core). The perceivable differences are going to be much shallower.

Basically, the way I see it is as follows: If you already own a 3-6 core AMD "II" or Intel core2 series CPU, then there isn't anything available within any reasonable price range that is worth upgrading to for the vast majority of purposes. If you are building a new machine, Intel currently has the advantage for the vast majority of builders because their SB CPUs (everything from the celeron 530 up through the 2700K) are all stronger in the IPC department by a large enough margin that even having more cores on the AMD side of the option doesn't "compete" [in benchmarks] for the vast majority of scenarios.

Again, I must stress, that while AMD is struggling to compete in the IPC department, there isn't really a "need" for the extra IPC in modern computing for most users. A few years back, hardware overcame software on a large scale, to the point that, the vast majority of software available nowadays, is going to run very acceptably well even on entry level hardware configurations. Athlon II machines will be very usable for most users for many years to come. That said, If I had to pick between the more cores of AMD or the more productive and power efficient cores of Intel today, I would probably go with Intel.
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Thank you all for your thoughts and opinions, I think I'm just going to stick it out once again and wait till the Ivy Bridge stuff comes out next year and make my decision then. Who knows by then maybe AMD will have more stuff out too, and maybe by then AMD will actually step up and produce something worth while again
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