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post #11 of 22
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Yeah, I mean for the price of NEW 598s, you could get better performance for the price.

No, the external DAC plugs in via USB don't need a sound card.
What would you recommend instead of 598s. im open to any thing really
post #12 of 22
For 250 dollars, you could find Beyerdynamic DT880s or 990s. I was thinking you had found a deal which was even the reason you were considering the 598s.

Beyer's will require an amp though and you'll want the 600 ohm version.

If you don't want to dish out money for an amp on top of the beyer's then don't get the beyers.

Ultrasone Pro 750s will also do, but won't be as power hungry as the Beyer's.

If you do have money for an amp on top of the beyer's how much are you willing to spend on an amp?
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post #13 of 22
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For 250 dollars, you could find Beyerdynamic DT880s or 990s. I was thinking you had found a deal which was even the reason you were considering the 598s.

Beyer's will require an amp though and you'll want the 600 ohm version.

If you don't want to dish out money for an amp on top of the beyer's then don't get the beyers.

Ultrasone Pro 750s will also do, but won't be as power hungry as the Beyer's.

If you do have money for an amp on top of the beyer's how much are you willing to spend on an amp?
Will the DAC also act as a Amp? or is that just a decoder?
post #14 of 22
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Yeah, I mean for the price of NEW 598s, you could get better performance for the price.

No, the external DAC plugs in via USB don't need a sound card.
Or optical or coaxial, if you're like me and you manage to use up every USB port on your PC.

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Will the DAC also act as a Amp? or is that just a decoder?
Depends. Some are DAC/Amp combo, some aren't.
post #15 of 22
Most external DACs come with a built in amplifier, but a DAC alone won't amplify music.

Basically DAC=Makes your music have more clarity. Amp=Makes it louder and bassier (and can clear up mids on certain headphones).
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post #16 of 22
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So what if i wanted to spend 400$ on it all what would you suggest so say 200 for headphones and 200 for soundcard
post #17 of 22
I have the Sennheiser HD 555's and they still amaze me: so comfortable, such excellent sound. I run mine through an X-Fi Titanium and the combo is really nice.
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post #18 of 22
Oops hit post.

To finish - go with the HD 598's and strongly consider one of the X-Fi cards.
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post #19 of 22
Eh...others might disagree with me, but I think you should buy Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm and a refurbished/used Xonar STX'

I know you can find the DT880s for 264 shipped on ebay, but if you look around, you may be able to find them cheaper. (250 for the B-stock at Pro Audio Star. Can't vouch for them as a supplier though).

That leaves you 150ish or less to spend on a DAC and amp. Many will tell you to buy an external DAC with built in amp rather than grab the Asus STX and you most likely will see better quality from an external amp and DAC, but whatever magical wizardry the STX gives you will be lost in the DAC. That's not to say that gaming on an external DAC isn't great. I'm going to just say that flat out right now. Gaming on an external DAC is very doable. I game with people that use external DACs and I swear they sometimes hear things around them better than I did on a DX.

So fooey to those who say gaming on an External DAC is horrible.

At the price point you're faced with you could grab one of 4 DAC/AMPs imo. If you choose to research the matter further I'm sure you can find other options.

$80- Fiio e10 which should be out any day now.

$106 - Used Zero DAC

$122.50 - Musiland Monitor 02.

$150 - Aune Mini MK2

These should all theoretically give you enough ampage to use the DT880s at 600 ohms. That doesn't mean they'll be performing at tip top shape though.

IMO, under the Musiland, you're probably better off with the STX. At the Musiland, you're better off with the external DACs if you just want the best amp/DAC package.
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post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Simca View Post
$80- Fiio e10 which should be out any day now.

$106 - Used Zero DAC

$122.50 - Musiland Monitor 02.

$150 - Aune Mini MK2
Have a Zero myself with OPA627s; I can definitely +1 that suggestion. Found it used on Head-Fi for $100.
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