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The power consumption has been going down quite a bit recently, it started off horrendously and now it's not so bad.
well according to abinstein at the zone the power consumption is great the way AMD designed it,it's the faults of reviewers and consumers who push BD to hard and wanted chips faster than 3.5GHz.so if AMD had only released BD at 3.0GHz with a turbo of 3.5GHz and reviewers would just stop OCing these damn things all would be good with BD

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Then we see some "reviewers" push Bulldozer way out of its intended operating frequency and claim it is not power efficient. With all due respect, I do think such reviewers can use a bit more training in basic engineering concept. According to hotchips, Bulldozer is designed for 3.5GHz. That I had assumed was 3.0GHz with 3.5GHz turbo. No it won't be the fastest chip on earth at that frequency, but it may be the most cost and power efficiency chip for well optimized software. One has to understand that few people on earth will ask for above 3.5GHz Bulldozer cores.
An even worse thing is to not only push Bulldozer out of its optimal operating range, but use that result to imply the entire "FX family." We see benchmarks which run BD at 4+GHz and claim it is not power efficiency.
this guy is the master of spin
    
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i thought BD turbos well above 3.5ghz?
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post #133 of 143
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at least they are laying off marketing and not engineers.

having 10% of your workforce as marketing/public relations is a big problem IMHO. he work could be contracted out to reliable companys that know how to market a product. these people seem like a bunch of useless morons anyways, the company needs $$$ to get competitive and if you have a annual 200m cost for crap that doesn't deliver, you slice it off like the gangrene limb it is. you then move on.

Rory Reed ain't nobody's fool. He will likely want to do more OEM partnerships with server manu's etc. Thereby dramatically reducing overhead costs for marketing people that produce no real value to the company. IMHO this was a good move, cut the fat off the corp and let it breathe with some funding to hire more engineers. the people that produce the product.
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having 10% of your workforce as marketing/public relations is a big problem IMHO. he work could be contracted out to reliable companys that know how to market a product. these people seem like a bunch of useless morons anyways, the company needs $$$ to get competitive and if you have a annual 200m cost for crap that doesn't deliver, you slice it off like the gangrene limb it is. you then move on.
That was my first reaction...if you can layoff 1500 employees out of 12,000 and have most of them be marketing and PR people...then the originial situation was a disaster waiting to happen. I'd like to know what these 751+ people were doing though...I haven't really seen any AMD advertising except online stuff that could have been done by a 12 year old. Most of the hype for bulldozer resulted from a few forum posts and like, three press releases

This actually a good layoff and if they do outsource it there would probably be more jobs saved/made from it in the long run.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 11/8/11 at 9:55am
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post #135 of 143
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i thought BD turbos well above 3.5ghz?
thats what so funny about abinsteins post,his new excuse is BD should have been a 3.0GHz with turbo of 3.5GHz and then power draw would be fine,it's just that us consumers wanted too much clock and it's our fault,and the real bad numbers in the reviews are the reviewers fault for clocking them up to 4.5GHz to 4.9GHz and complaining power draw is high
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push Bulldozer way out of its intended operating frequency and claim it is not power efficient.
    
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Feel bad for all the employee's that got let go.
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post #137 of 143
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well according to abinstein at the zone the power consumption is great the way AMD designed it,it's the faults of reviewers and consumers who push BD to hard and wanted chips faster than 3.5GHz.so if AMD had only released BD at 3.0GHz with a turbo of 3.5GHz and reviewers would just stop OCing these damn things all would be good with BD
Heh, the funny thing is it mostly is the low quality 32nm process they're using, as the process has gotten better over time power consumption is in line with what you'd expect for an 8 core.
    
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REAL MEN USE REAL CORES...

real cores...

real cores...

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Or russian.
Russians are Asians.

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The Israelite people are also pretty good too
Except they primarily focus on military applications. Vastly different software for the hardware they focus on producing.

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Yeah. The engineers design a crappy CPU that the marketing guys have to somehow sell as competitive with Intel and its the marketing guys who get the axe??? Lol, see "scapegoat"....
If you gave the same engineers intels budget and resources. And made them an equal amount of people compared to intel's engineering department youd have good competition.

Im glad they fired the people in marketing they deserved to be fired.

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New Strategy?

I will never believe a word AMD says again until I See it with my own eyes, then I have to smell it first.
Yes and thats thanks to the marketing department they just fired. Lets be honest. Those guys damaged AMDs reputation and it may not be a wound they can heal easily.

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Anybody else reminded of the "supposed" emails from irate AMD employees about how AMD was putting more money into marketing Bulldozer and bashing everyone and everything else, and now the two main groups of people being laid off is PR and marketing?
Yup

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Well, laying off incompetent PR/marketeers is a good move. BD advertising has been a total failure, as much as the chip itself.
What AMD needs is better engineers, so maybe they'll be able to hire some after this cleanup.
I agree

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having 10% of your workforce as marketing/public relations is a big problem IMHO. he work could be contracted out to reliable companys that know how to market a product. these people seem like a bunch of useless morons anyways, the company needs $$$ to get competitive and if you have a annual 200m cost for crap that doesn't deliver, you slice it off like the gangrene limb it is. you then move on.

Rory Reed ain't nobody's fool. He will likely want to do more OEM partnerships with server manu's etc. Thereby dramatically reducing overhead costs for marketing people that produce no real value to the company. IMHO this was a good move, cut the fat off the corp and let it breathe with some funding to hire more engineers. the people that produce the product.
Absolutely it was a good move.

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Feel bad for all the employee's that got let go.
I don't I wish I could see JF-AMDs face coming home to that wife of his and explaining to her why he got fired. He's a PR guy and judging by the spin job he did here he'll be able to convince her this was the best thing that ever happened to their family.
 
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20 bucks that it involves focusing on console/laptop/mobile phone GPUs.
I'll see your $20 and raise you Crysis 3, COD 18 (or whatever version they're up to now) and a one legged prostitute. (my poker face)
     
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