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Nice one, learn to read...
"Ok". You repeated what's been said a billion times already, hence the reply.
Edited by Stefy - 11/5/11 at 3:04pm
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Wow, so many peeps in this thread -- I thought it was a newegg OB sale!
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post #43 of 111
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Now you're not even making a proper argument.

The GTX590 and the 6990 use the same power at idle and only about 70 watts more while under load, same energy as leaving on one single light bulb.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...0-3gb-review/8

Sure, it might be a "waste," but lots of people "waste" power by leaving lights on. Also from those performance charts, who cares about power? We OVERCLOCK. Pursuit of pure performance.
As a current Nvidia owner thats pretty bad My entire system at load (single card) is no more than 320 watts at the wall.

But seems like power consumption on the 570 is decent. Though im only BF3 and Folding not like i ran furmark on it or anything lol. My previous high on CPU only folding was 155 watts so the card is under the 200 watt rating on my use.

Several of my friends grabbed 6970's off the Amazon deal and got them price matched for in stock ones. For 200 bucks its freaking awesome. 330 not so much until the drivers the cards deserve appear.

I stand by the fact i think the AMD cards will have their day in BF3 Ultra its just not today and its all AMDs fault I hope they are working daily with Dice on their next drivers.
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The AMD tests are with AA off (despite what they say, go test it for yourself), so when they put AA on come talk to me. BF3 RAPES AN ATI card with AA on. You sound like an ati fanboy. I bet they used a 1.5gb 580 as well with old drivers so they could look better!
Edited by chrisguitar - 11/5/11 at 3:14pm
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For Ultra, most people would at least using 1980 or even higher definition like over 25xx resolution. For this higher demand case, GTX just lost too much, but this is exactly what most of the poeple would do when they are able to pay money to enjoy the ultra.

Running ultra in a 17", 15" monitor and GTX does great for cases like these? These are unrealistic cases.
lol. It has already been pointed out so i'll only say it again one last time:

The primary reason AMD is delivering horrendous performance under Ultra seems to be the presence of MSAA (with is set to 4x by default under ultra). With just FXAA, AMD provides a pretty awesome performance match to Nvidia in ultra settings.

Nvidia cards don't suck for Bf3. Not even close. And especially not if you are playing with the default "Ultra" setting.

And this an AMD owner speaking btw.
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Yes AMD card do perform better. OP is right. The problem is that Nvidia Users must bring MSAA in every benchmark which not only kills all single card performance for both sides (Nvidia just take a smaller hit) but its also very badly implemented. In short with 0AA FXAA High ATI HD 6970 walks with GTX580 and not GTX570 (Rival). Also OCN in general has the disease that unless something is Maxed out it does not count. Go read some people complaining about memory leak of GTX570 with MSAA ON. They all have to disabled it so they can play the game and with it disabled AMD card do better.
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post #47 of 111
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If we talk about ultra, let's see 2560 scores:
GTX 590 49.01
6990 76.8

both are one single card, look like Nvidia tech level is so behind just like AMD in cpu industry with its turtle FX cpu.
I don't know what the hell you're testing, at 2560x1600 my 590 gets 70 with everything max.
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Yes AMD card do perform better. OP is right. The problem is that Nvidia Users must bring MSAA in every benchmark which not only kills all single card performance for both sides (Nvidia just take a smaller hit) but its also very badly implemented. In short with 0AA FXAA High ATI HD 6970 walks with GTX580 and not GTX570 (Rival). Also OCN in general has the disease that unless something is Maxed out it does not count. Go read some people complaining about memory leak of GTX570 with MSAA ON. They all have to disabled it so they can play the game and with it disabled AMD card do better.
Hmmm this memory leak what are its symptoms? Seriously I have a 570 and no complaints yet in this game other than complaints I already had on my gaming laptop with the games issues as is.

GTX 580 should do better than a 6970 and it costs too damn much. The 6970 should be beating the 570 in most areas and it probably will in Ultra in a couple months.

We went into Caspian Border and the 2 of my 3 6970 friends said hell no to a second round one had started turning settings down. Its a bad map at the moment so we do have to figure that in.

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I don't know what the hell you're testing, at 2560x1600 my 590 gets 70 with everything max.
See now i dont even believe that lol.
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Hmmm this memory leak what are its symptoms? Seriously I have a 570 and no complaints yet in this game other than complaints I already had on my gaming laptop with the games issues as is.

GTX 580 should do better than a 6970 and it costs too damn much. The 6970 should be beating the 570 in most areas and it probably will in Ultra in a couple months.

We went into Caspian Border and the 2 of my 3 6970 friends said hell no to a second round one had started turning settings down. Its a bad map at the moment so we do have to figure that in.



See now i dont even believe that lol.
So you run your game maxed out with 4 MSAA at what resolution? You are telling me you prefer to play under 40fps? Also MSAA is just as bad in Nvidia. It takes 22% drop while AMD 35%. Yes 35% is much worse bit i would not even hesitate to drop it even if i had a Nvidia card considering 22% is a huge % and the effect you get you can easily achieve with FXAA at no fps lost. AMD might improve this problem with driver but will never be better then Nvidia because its not a AMD/Nvidia problem but a game engine which does not work well with MSAA.
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i had the notion that nvidia drivers were better optimized...
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