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Originally Posted by subliminally incorrect View Post
i would hardly call being higher in average by 2-3 fps being beat pretty bad.

trolling much?
well... for the money, if the 6970 is beating a 580 at anything that's a pretty good beat, eh?
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I'm sure the VRAM has a lot to do with it. When I play at 2560x1600, all Ultra, High Post AA, HBAO on, my cards use 1.6-1.8GB of VRAM each. Super high resolution is where 6950/6970 really shine, especially for the price.
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So much garbage on this thread, both cards are great companies. This argument is really subjective. So here's the flip side of the coin.








"Nvidia didn’t bother to compare their products to AMD’s when putting together their reviewers guide. AMD, on the other hand, included extensive testing putting products from both companies head to head. That testing cast the Radeon series in a good light, however we found it odd that in virtually every test AMD used the Ultra settings but with MSAA completely disabled.

When we started testing on our own it became apparent why AMD did this. With MSAA enabled the performance sharply declines with Radeon boards and previous generation Nvidia products make AMD’s current generation hardware look foolish. However disabling MSAA allows AMD to catch up to Nvidia, as you saw in our High quality 1680x1050, 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 tests.

Without MSAA the Radeon HD 6970 looks far more impressive, as it was able to match the GeForce GTX 580 while setting you back 27% less. The same can be said about multi-GPU setups which saw the Radeon HD 6970 Crossfire cards mimic the performance of the GeForce GTX 580 SLI configuration.

In short, AMD users should avoid using the MSAA setting unless they have a top notch Crossfire setup. On the other hand, owners of GeForce GTX 580 and GTX 570 graphics cards can afford to enable MSAA at resolutions up to 1920x1200. It's a small visual compromise, as I personally find the MSAA setting to add a certain degree of polish but not nearly enough to justify the big performance drop in AMD boards. You'll be happy to live without it
." - TechSpot
     
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So much garbage on this thread, both cards are great companies. This argument is really subjective. So here's the flip side of the coin.








"Nvidia didn’t bother to compare their products to AMD’s when putting together their reviewers guide. AMD, on the other hand, included extensive testing putting products from both companies head to head. That testing cast the Radeon series in a good light, however we found it odd that in virtually every test AMD used the Ultra settings but with MSAA completely disabled.

When we started testing on our own it became apparent why AMD did this. With MSAA enabled the performance sharply declines with Radeon boards and previous generation Nvidia products make AMD’s current generation hardware look foolish. However disabling MSAA allows AMD to catch up to Nvidia, as you saw in our High quality 1680x1050, 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 tests.

Without MSAA the Radeon HD 6970 looks far more impressive, as it was able to match the GeForce GTX 580 while setting you back 27% less. The same can be said about multi-GPU setups which saw the Radeon HD 6970 Crossfire cards mimic the performance of the GeForce GTX 580 SLI configuration.

In short, AMD users should avoid using the MSAA setting unless they have a top notch Crossfire setup. On the other hand, owners of GeForce GTX 580 and GTX 570 graphics cards can afford to enable MSAA at resolutions up to 1920x1200. It's a small visual compromise, as I personally find the MSAA setting to add a certain degree of polish but not nearly enough to justify the big performance drop in AMD boards. You'll be happy to live without it
." - TechSpot
I think AMD didn't pay enough to techspot:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/116...e-highest.html
post #65 of 111
It's true that AMD sucks in BF3 when MSAA is enabled, but take a look at this screenshot comparison:



FXAA on high looks considerably than 4x MSAA, and hardly affects performance on both AMD and Nvidia setups. Seems like MSAA should just be disabled altogether, unless you have so much graphical headroom that you can afford to turn it on.
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I really have nothing beneficial to add to this post other than the post name is a** backwards it should be "BF3 not designed for Nvidia". I do believe Nvidia was around long before this game
    
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I think AMD didn't pay enough to techspot:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/116...e-highest.html
OR Nvidia to HardAMD benches -err HardOCP. Your so biased in your hate thread it's blantantly obvious.

Trying to validate your own purchase perhaps, make yourself feel better?

I've made my point. To those reading who might be fooled by your bias now have the subjective view. /done with feeding another AMD vs Nvidia thread.

BTW list your specs. - Great start to OCN bud.
     
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So basically If you have msaa turned on then the 6990 will drop under the 590.
If you disable msaa then the 6990 pulls 6 frames more than the 590.

HMMMM well even if this guy was trolling I would still have to say I would go with whatever is cheaper.

Honestly though 6fps isn't what I would call unoptimized.
Shouldn't the admins be controlling this thread?
It seems the trolls have been rampant lately.
And when you report a troll they do nothing.
They should atleast post in a thread and let there presence be known.
Just my
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OR Nvidia to HardAMD benches -err HardOCP. Your so biased in your hate thread it's blantantly obvious.

Trying to validate your own purchase perhaps, make yourself feel better?

I've made my point. To those reading who might be fooled by your bias now have the subjective view. /done with feeding another AMD vs Nvidia thread.

BTW list your specs. - Great start to OCN bud.
hey dude I asks someone else to prove that techspot point is wrong, and we all learn something from discussion over here, why do you say I troll? Don't say this is a troll just because you don't like it.
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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post
OR Nvidia to HardAMD benches -err HardOCP. Your so biased in your trolling hate thread it's blantantly obvious.

Trying to validate your own purchase perhaps?

I've made my point. To those reading who might be fooled by your bias now have the subjective view. /done with feeding another AMD vs Nvidia thread.
Come on... calm down. Your tone of voice makes you sound like the biased fanboy now...

The fact of the matter is: both AMD and Nvidia's latest cards are competitive and do very well in BF3. AMD excels at higher resolutions with MSAA off, while Nvidia does better with MSAA enabled and at resolutions below 2560x1600.

But, from a price/performance perspective, the 6950 and 6970 are better choices than the 570/580 (with MSAA off), and you can't dispute that.
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