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post #11 of 31
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Originally Posted by SwishaMane View Post
So what makes SSDs so nice then? "Ooh, I got 500mb/s read for 1 year." "Well, I got 100mb/s read for 9 on my mechanical hdd..." lol
1) Why would you use a performance HDD for 9 years?
2) In 9 years, you will be saying... I got 200MB/s from my brand new HDD. We'll be saying... we're getting 3GB/s.
3) Current SSDs NAND should last 8+ years for home users.

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Degradation of speed and high price is what puts off SSD's for me, until they improve in both I will stick to HDD's.
The degradation of speed is less than 3% and can be restored with a reformat.
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1000 writes sounds too scary for me.
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An SSD is like Tivo/DVR. Once you use it, you cant go without it.

The access times are what is the real big advantage is. And I am thinking of buying another SSD just for my games. My 128Gb is full, but is still fast. In benchmarks, it is slow for what it should be, but that is because it is full. In real world use, it is still fast as when I did a fresh install.

As for the OCZ TLC thing, will be a good thing for OEMs and people on a budget. But I wont be getting them. And I agree, SSDs are getting faster each generation, but are losing endurance at the same time. Not a good tradeoff I think
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post #14 of 31
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So what makes SSDs so nice then? "Ooh, I got 500mb/s read for 1 year." "Well, I got 100mb/s read for 9 on my mechanical hdd..." lol
Because most people can afford to replaces the SSDs and maintain the speed?

"I ate a lobster roll today."

"I could buy a years worth of Ramen noodles with the money you spent on that lobster roll"

It's because the most efficient way of spending isn't always the best.
    
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The degradation of speed is less than 3% and can be restored with a reformat.
Well, that's not including speed degradation from filling up your drive. At least with my drive, it is probably 30-50% slower when full than when I had only windows installed.
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Well, that's not including speed degradation from filling up your drive. At least with my drive, it is probably 30-50% slower when full than when I had only windows installed.
SSDs don't degrade in read speeds

They only degrade in writes but with cheaper nand cells allowing for bigger and faster cache speeds that will eventually be neglected

To write in a sector that has stuff in it but it is queued for deletion if you need to write on it

Sector_Old to Cache -> Delete Sector_Old -> Remove data that isn't needed in Sector_Cache -> Write new data to Sector_Cache -> Sector_Cache to Sector_New -> Delete Sector_Cache

^Takes time
Edited by Seronx - 11/5/11 at 9:46pm
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Well, that's not including speed degradation from filling up your drive. At least with my drive, it is probably 30-50% slower when full than when I had only windows installed.
HDD suffer performance issues when filled as well.

As for a SSD, the read performance is the same when filled. The write performance suffers when there are no more "clean" blocks and the controllers has to do a read-modify-write on an exist "dirty" block.As
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I'm interested. Even if these don't tickle my fancy, I'm in the market for an SSD that gives me at least 40Gb, no matter the read/write speed, for cheap.
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I'm interested. Even if these don't tickle my fancy, I'm in the market for an SSD that gives me at least 40Gb, no matter the read/write speed, for cheap.
OCZ got you covered then but you might need to wait awhile
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You guys can hate SSD all you like, but please don't make it sound like its a bad thing to have or its some kind of bad investment for the others that is thinking and/or wanting to try it out.

I will be getting another SSD in the near future just because in my opinion, I think SSD is the best upgrade I had in years.

The biggest bottleneck in a modern PC is an HDD.

Now back to the topic.

I think this could go both ways like is already mention above, if this sales good than I could see more manufactures following this trend. If it does follow through the question will be, how much reliability can you sacrifice for speed.
Edited by SpYFoXZeRo - 11/6/11 at 7:56am
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