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INTEL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072CPU:Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3ghz (LGA1155) $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130618Motherboard:MSI Z68A-G45 (B3) $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127604GPU:MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III 1gb $260
TOTAL $610

AMD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103913CPU:AMD Phenom II X6 1100T $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131651Motherboard:ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500215GPU:ZOTAC ZT-50203-10M GeForce GTX 570$330
TOTAL $625

Hi friends, I have decided to build a new system before XMAS. I have already choosen everything apart from MOBO,CPU,GPU
I am bit confused between these two combinations (above mentioned INTEL & AMD), my budget for these three parts is 620$.

MY QUESTIONS
1. Which of the above mentioned combination will perform better for GAMING AND 3DSMAX, MAYA.
2. What will be THE BEST conbination I can get in $620 and will outperform above mention two options.
post #2 of 11
The first one. 2600k does significantly better in 3DS due to the HT though. I also find MSI boards hard to recommend but that's your choice.

If you has a little more budget:
Asus/Gigabyte board or change to AsRock
Go to an nvidia GTX 570 or above due to your 3D rendering requirements.

Here:
2500k
GTX 570
AsRock Somethingrather
HAF 932/HAF X
SSD's also help although with your budget, not required. Maybe a Z68 board with speedstep would be good.
Edited by asuperpower - 11/6/11 at 1:59am
   
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z Asus GTX 570 Direct CU II [1280MB] G.Skill RipjawsX 1600MHz 9-9-9-24 4x4GB [16GB] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial M4 aM4azing SSD [64GB] Kingston HyperX HypersoniX SSD [120GB] Kingston SSDNow V100+ 6Gb/s SSD [60GB] Seagate 7200RPM HDD [1TB] 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung DVD Drive Noctua NH-D14 AeroCool Shark case fan Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Yamakasi Catleap Q270 LED 27" IPS Display Samsung SyncMaster 2033 23" secondary utility d... Das Model S Ultimate Silent Corsair AX-850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF X Steelseries Sensei [RAW] Rubberised AG Holomat Interdyn P1.5 Hi-Fi speakers 
AudioAudioAudio
Rotel R8-9608X amplifier Lexicon Lambda Audio Interface Grado SR125i 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z EVGA GTX 880 G.Skill RipjawsX 1600MHz 9-9-9-24 4x4GB [16GB] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial M4 aM4azing SSD [64GB] Kingston HyperX HypersoniX SSD [120GB] Kingston V200+ SSD [64GB] Seagate SpinPoint 7200.12 [1TB, 2x500GB partiti... 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Super Writemaster DVD Drive Arqtik 180SDD TEC Arqtik Single TEC Controller AquaComputer AquagraFX GTX880 Waterblock 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC RS360 Koolance PMP-450 Bitspower G/14 compression fittings - Matte bla... PrimoChill PrimoFlex Tubing (7/16x5/8) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
FrozenQ Liquid Fusion V Series 250 ml Reservoir... 3xScythe 120mm SlipStream 1900rpm Fan Windows 9 - Home edition Catleap Q270 LED Primary S-IPS display 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster 2033 secondary utility display Das Model S Ultimate Silent Corsair AX-850 Coolermaster HAF-X 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Steelseries Sensei AG Holomat Interdyn Hi-Fi speakers Rotel R8-960BX Amplifier 
AudioOtherOther
Lexicon Lambda USB Audio Interface with Phantom... CF Wrap :p 3x PrimoChill Anti-Microbial tube coil 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Z-Drive R4 CloudServ (3.2TB) Blu-Ray USB Replicator Blu-Ray drive EK HF Supreme Waterblock 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC680 DCUII Waterblock [x3] EK Rampage IV Extreme Waterblock 3xXSPC RX480 [1x480 for CPU] [2x480 for GPU] 1xXSPC RX240 [For motherboard waterblock] 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
2xFrozenQ liquid fusion 400mm [1 for each loop] 6x Laing D5 [4x for CPU+GPU waterblock] [2x for... Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Linux Ubuntu 
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3xYakamasi Catleap [OCN Edition] Ducky Shine OCN edition [Blank keycaps] [Red] 2xAX1200 Case Labs Magnum M10 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
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the first one
post #4 of 11
Those are both nice systems you have listed there, both of which have their strengths.

INTEL
Solid CPU - Better clock for clock performance than AMD system and overclocks higher. Best for gaming and performance for programs that won't utilise 6 cores.

Motherboard - Solid - supports both SLI and crossfire so no limitations for multi GPU setups should you decide to ever get one.

GPU - Close performance to 570 in some cases, falls behind in other cases - Very capable gaming card

AMD
CPU - Slower clock for clock, doesn't overclock as high - May outperform 2500k if program can use all 6 threads.

Mobo - Solid however only supports Crossfire, limited to AMD/ATi cards for dual GPU setups

GPU - Outperforms 6950 in some cases

There's your pro and cons for each system. My pick would be the Intel system because you have the option of SLI or Crossfire and 9 times out of 10 the 2500k is going to be the better CPU. The 6950 can fall behind the 570, however alot of they time they perform closely and both are very capable gaming cards anyway.
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Originally Posted by jjjc_93 View Post
Those are both nice systems you have listed there, both of which have their strengths.

INTEL
Solid CPU - Better clock for clock performance than AMD system and overclocks higher. Best for gaming and performance for programs that won't utilise 6 cores.

Motherboard - Solid - supports both SLI and crossfire so no limitations for multi GPU setups should you decide to ever get one.

GPU - Close performance to 570 in some cases, falls behind in other cases - Very capable gaming card

AMD
CPU - Slower clock for clock, doesn't overclock as high - May outperform 2500k if program can use all 6 threads.

Mobo - Solid however only supports Crossfire, limited to AMD/ATi cards for dual GPU setups

GPU - Outperforms 6950 in some cases

There's your pro and cons for each system. My pick would be the Intel system because you have the option of SLI or Crossfire and 9 times out of 10 the 2500k is going to be the better CPU. The 6950 can fall behind the 570, however alot of they time they perform closely and both are very capable gaming cards anyway.
The 6950 is comparable to the 560 ti and not the gtx 570..... To the op, go for the first build but ditch the 6950 in favor of the gx 570 1.28gb or 2.56gb version.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
thanx for ur valuable advises....

but the problem is i can only aford $620 for those things. n found this combinations at best.... i thought MSI TF3 6950 can be overclock so much that can match 570.....in short cant affrd gtx570 ...lolzzzz

do u people think 6950 TF3 can be overclocked to match 570...( n i m not going for eyefinity so i dnt think higher VRAM will give benefit.)
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by asuperpower View Post
The first one. 2600k does significantly better in 3DS due to the HT though. I also find MSI boards hard to recommend but that's your choice.

If you has a little more budget:
Asus/Gigabyte board or change to AsRock
Go to an nvidia GTX 570 or above due to your 3D rendering requirements
What this man said.


Nvidia tends to do better in that department.

I wouldn't recommend an MSI board for 2nd gen i7/i5s either. Gigabyte or Asus are better.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by asuperpower View Post
The first one. 2600k does significantly better in 3DS due to the HT though. I also find MSI boards hard to recommend but that's your choice.

If you has a little more budget:
Asus/Gigabyte board or change to AsRock
Go to an nvidia GTX 570 or above due to your 3D rendering requirements.

Here:
2500k
GTX 570
AsRock Somethingrather
HAF 932/HAF X
SSD's also help although with your budget, not required. Maybe a Z68 board with speedstep would be good.
i have asus option ie. ASUS P8Z68-V LE.... will cost me same as MSI.
and may think for SAPPHIRE TOXIC 6950...(wich is factory unlocked to 6970 by fliping bios switch....if m lucky lolz) of $290 but cant aford more then $330 for gtx570.....
so what do think should i stick with MSI TF3 6950 1gb (better cooling & overclocking)
OR saphire TOXIC 6950 2gb to test my luck...
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by kamleshdon007 View Post

MY QUESTIONS
1. Which of the above mentioned combination will perform better for GAMING AND 3DSMAX, MAYA.
2. What will be THE BEST conbination I can get in $620 and will outperform above mention two options.






This is over your budget but will save you in the ling run because you wont need to upgrade your cpu unless you want an ivy bridge cpu.

The MSI GTX 570 will perform plenty in 3ds max, as a fellow user I could say that the 570 is a good choice but the i5 2500k wasn't the best choice I made.

Go for the i7 2600k and the GTX 570 and any mobo is fine except MSI!!! stay away from msi mobo's like a child and pedo's. I've had bad experiences and so have other people.
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i have asus option ie. ASUS P8Z68-V LE.... will cost me same as MSI.
and may think for SAPPHIRE TOXIC 6950...(wich is factory unlocked to 6970 by fliping bios switch....if m lucky lolz) of $290 but cant aford more then $330 for gtx570.....
so what do think should i stick with MSI TF3 6950 1gb (better cooling & overclocking)
OR saphire TOXIC 6950 2gb to test my luck...
I would suggest the ASUS p8Z68 -V

For the little price difference you get some important additions. For starters you get a x8/x8 PCIe config instead of x16/x4. You will also get a 16 (12+4) phase design instead of a 6 phase (4+2) phase that you would get with the V-LE.

This will matter if you want to go crossfire/sli in the future. The extra phases will also come in handy if you plan to be overclocking heavily with perhaps a 2500k. More phases = Each phase working less to provide less heat and more stability.

It also has a few others changes, not huge but maybe to your liking.

look in to it.
Edited by Focus182 - 11/6/11 at 8:25am
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