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post #11 of 19
580s gain so much performance from OCing that a 6970 does and is faster at stock as well. Its hard to say that this point is worth the extra 200nzd, if it were me buddy just go on pricespy and look for the cheapest 69502gb and OC that. Should save you a couple hundred dollars without loosing much performance compared to that of a 6970.
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it all depends on the resolution. at 1680*1050 and lower, the gtx 570 actually outperforms the 6970 in most games. at 1080p the 6970's 2gb of ram give it an advantage.

personally i think the best performance option is 2x570's.
post #13 of 19
May I ask why no SLI or CFX? I am curious to hear what kind of prices a 6950 goes for there. Two of those would destroy a 580.
post #14 of 19
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it all depends on the resolution. at 1680*1050 and lower, the gtx 570 actually outperforms the 6970 in most games. at 1080p the 6970's 2gb of ram give it an advantage.

personally i think the best performance option is 2x570's.
I would agree with this. I have owned 6970 crossfire and traded it for 2 GTX 570's, at 1080p im maxing every game I have played and I have yet to hit the VRam wall I was worried about.

Get a GTX 570 now and a 2nd a little later. I know you said no SLI/Crossfire but it is worth it
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Some things I would take note of:
GTX 580 has better overclock potential.
GTX 580 uses more power.
GTX 580 should have 1.5GB, (which makes me think that is a typo) While the HD 6970 has 2GB which is actually important for BF3, especially depending on your resolution.
Yes sorry I meant 1.5GB.

Is 850W (Corsair AX or HX probably) enough for a 580 and 2500K both OC'ed? Not a huge OC or anything, just a reasonable increase.

I'm not actually going to be doing this build for another month or so, so I'll just wait and see what the prices are like then. Maybe there'll be some good Christmas deals going on! Fingers crossed.
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May I ask why no SLI or CFX? I am curious to hear what kind of prices a 6950 goes for there. Two of those would destroy a 580.
Well it just seems like a real hassle to use, I've heard lots of complaints about drivers and micro stuttering.

The 6950 2GBs look to be around $430NZ
post #17 of 19
6950s for price/performance. Try to find a used reference design card as those can unlock. 570 is also a good choice for 1080p if you can get one for 300 or less. Otherwise 6950.
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Hey guys so which of these cards would you recommend?

Direct CU II 6970 2GB - $590NZ
Direct CU II 580 1.25GB - $790NZ

I'll be playing games like BF3 and MW3 and want this rig to last as long as possible along with a 2500k. I won't be going SLI/Crossfire.

Is the extra $200 worth it for the performance? Or no?
They are both really good cards. Certain things to think about that might assist in your decision.

GTX 580 is going to get you better performance on the whole across many games.

As for BF3 depending on settings these stats sway back and forth between the two. Depends on settings your wanting to play, maxed or can settle with less eye candy.

As for MW3, no one knows yet how these cards will play out in benches between the 580 / 6970, any comments would be speculative at this point.

Pricing might sway you depending on your budget. Lowest priced cards around....

Sapphire AMD 6970 $349.99

PNY GTX 580 $409.99. On avg up to about $100 more with other vendors.

Some food for thought looking down the road....

If your ever thinking 3D Vision gaming, watching 3D blu-ray movies on single 1920x1200 120Hz monitor, definitely go Nvidia. Best 3D Vision on a supported hardware level. Hands down Nvidia.

If your thinking three monitors on just one card then AMD 6970 2.0GB can run all three. Nvidia can only run two at a time. Hands down AMD.

If your thinking SLI on three monitors go with GTX 580 3GB. Here across three screens VRAM does come into play and the more VRAM the better. Hands down Nvidia.

If your only going to be playing on a single monitor and none of those other options will come into play down the road they are both really good cards to be had. You really can't make a bad decision. Both will get the job done rather nicely for you.

P.S. As for 6950 suggestions given, though there's nothing wrong with it; if you can afford the 6970 or 580 then I'd go for that. There's always the risk a 6950 doesn't unlock. Even if it does, the 6970 & 580 over clocks higher and out performs the unlocked/over clocked 6950. I'm going to assume you can afford 6970/580 option or you wouldn't have asked in your OP question.
     
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post #19 of 19
if want huge VRAM,6970/6950 2GB is first choice.
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