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post #11 of 41
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yeah... but tbh the M4 has no where near the write speeds of my force 3 so...
post #12 of 41
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15593843 
yeah... but tbh the M4 has no where near the write speeds of my force 3 so...

What does that have to do with anything? OS is all about reads. rolleyes.gif

Anyways I still don't understand your point.
post #13 of 41
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yeah sure what are you on about... thats only if you decide not to install stuff to your ssd.. which i want to... so it is very much about writes...

anyway initial point was to find out if the speeds i was gettin (25% of full power) was normal for this board ssd combo.. as to see if i had setup the AHCI wrong or in the wrong order bla bla bla.. there is actually two optionf ro turning on AHCI on this board ( you must know as you had one) and also when i look at the drive in storage options it says "IDE - Coarsair force 120GB"
post #14 of 41
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15593917 
yeah sure what are you on about... thats only if you decide not to install stuff to your ssd.. which i want to... so it is very much about writes...

poke.gif You are very very wrong sorry.
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15593917 
anyway initial point was to find out if the speeds i was gettin (25% of full power) was normal for this board ssd combo.. as to see if i had setup the AHCI wrong or in the wrong order bla bla bla.. there is actually two optionf ro turning on AHCI on this board ( you must know as you had one) and also when i look at the drive in storage options it says "IDE - Coarsair force 120GB"

All you need to do is disable the marvell ports, and change the intel to AHCI. Then plug the drive into the intel ones. If you had them in IDE or installed the SD in IDE mode.

Change it to AHCI mode from IDE:
  1. Exit all Windows-based programs.
  2. Press [Win] + R or take the RUN option from the start menu.
  3. Now type Regedit there and press Enter Key to open up the Registry Editor Window. (If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.)
  4. Locate and then click the following registry sub key:
    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci
    
  5. In the right pane right-click Start in the Name column and then click Modify.
  6. In the Value data box, type 0 [3 is default], and then click OK.
  7. On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
  8. Restart your computer
  9. Go to BIOS and enable AHCI, Save & Reboot
  10. Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.
post #15 of 41
Thread Starter 
marvell controller (mesage in POST sequence) says "IDE - Corsair Force 3 120gb"

dont know exactly how to do this as i need someone with the same board or knows the board to tell me how to do it..
post #16 of 41
It should be under advanced > on board devices configuration > "Marvell controller" if I remember correctly from mine.

The change to either AHCI if you are keeping the SSD on the port or Disabled and put the SSD on the Intel port and your boots will be faster also.
post #17 of 41
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster;15593979 
poke.gif You are very very wrong sorry.



All you need to do is disable the marvell ports, and change the intel to AHCI. Then plug the drive into the intel ones. If you had them in IDE or installed the SD in IDE mode.

Change it to AHCI mode from IDE:
  1. Exit all Windows-based programs.
  2. Press [Win] + R or take the RUN option from the start menu.
  3. Now type Regedit there and press Enter Key to open up the Registry Editor Window. (If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.)
  4. Locate and then click the following registry sub key:
    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci
    
  5. In the right pane right-click Start in the Name column and then click Modify.
  6. In the Value data box, type 0 [3 is default], and then click OK.
  7. On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
  8. Restart your computer
  9. Go to BIOS and enable AHCI, Save & Reboot
  10. Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.

ok, so regarding the controller situation, heres my understanding..

please correct me if i am misunsderstanding

SATA 3 6Gb/s (Gigabits) would mean a theoretical throughput of 600MB/s (Megabytes) meaning a 500MB/s SSD eg Force 3 120gb would be able to run at full 500MB/s with around 100MB/s headroom

- A disk benchmark ran from my SSD on the Marvell controller shows seq write of 200MB/s & seq read of 140MB/s

SATA 2 3Gb/s (Gigabits) would mean a theoretical throughput of 300MB/s (Megabytes) meaning a 500MB/s SSD eg Force 3 120gb would be able to run at 300MB/s (but the SSD itself is capable of faster speeds)


The Marvell SATA 3 6Gb/s controller on the P6X58D-E is w**k, dosen't work properly and so all board manufacturers have dropped in favour of Intels solution

The Intel SATA 2 3Gb/s controller on the P6X58D-E (and every other board for that matter) does work properly and can produce the max throughput stated 3Gb/s (300MB/s) so long as storage media connected can perform at that level

(although when the Marvell controller POST message is displayed on Boot it mentions something about PCI-e x1 5.0Gbps <<<< need clarification does that mean this particular controller is actually only capable of 500MB/s dispite the fact of being marketed as a SATA 3 6Gb/s controller port on the motherboard ..!!! ??? in which case I hate marketing people!!!!!!!

conclusion..

in my mind IF the above is correct and true, then if I connect my Corsair Force 3 120gb to the Working and properly functioning SATA 2 3Gb/s port on Intel controller then I should see on the disk benchmark the full 3Gb/s seq. (300MB/s) write and read speeds that the drive is more than capable of, beating the speeds of the "superior" SATA 3 controller of as mentioned previously 200MB/s write and 140MB/s read

Would love confirmation/a persons experience of this before i switch...


Thx all!
Edited by FuRy88 - 11/7/11 at 6:38am
post #18 of 41
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btw just a mention for your help Sean.. please do not doubt it is MUCH appreciated! +rep
post #19 of 41
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 
ok, so regarding the controller situation, heres my understanding..

please correct me if i am misunsderstanding

SATA 3 6Gb/s (Gigabits) would mean a theoretical throughput of 600MB/s (Megabytes) meaning a 500MB/s SSD eg Force 3 120gb would be able to run at full 500MB/s with around 100MB/s headroom

Yep
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 
- A disk benchmark ran from my SSD on the Marvell controller shows seq write of 200MB/s & seq read of 140MB/s

USE ATTO for sandforce drives
Quote:
Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 

SATA 2 3Gb/s (Gigabits) would mean a theoretical throughput of 300MB/s (Megabytes) meaning a 500MB/s SSD eg Force 3 120gb would be able to run at 300MB/s (but the SSD itself is capable of faster speeds)

Yep
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 
The Marvell SATA 3 6Gb/s controller on the P6X58D-E is w**k, dosen't work properly and so all board manufacturers have dropped in favour of Intels solution

Not really, intel is just finally making sata 3 native.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 

The Intel SATA 2 3Gb/s controller on the P6X58D-E (and every other board for that matter) does work properly and can produce the max throughput stated 3Gb/s (300MB/s) so long as storage media connected can perform at that level

Yep...it is actually ~260-275MB/s
Quote:
Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 
(although when the Marvell controller POST message is displayed on Boot it mentions something about PCI-e x1 5.0Gbps <<<< need clarification does that mean this particular controller is actually only capable of 500MB/s dispite the fact of being marketed as a SATA 3 6Gb/s controller port on the motherboard ..!!! ??? in which case I hate marketing people!!!!!!!

Martvell uses up some of your PCI lanes, that is another reason it maxes out at a lower speed than it should.
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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603674 

conclusion..

in my mind IF the above is correct and true, then if I connect my Corsair Force 3 120gb to the Working a properly functioning SATA 2 3Gb/s port on Intel controller then I should see on the disk benchmark the full 3Gb/s seq. (300MB/s) write and read speeds that the drive is more than capable of...

Would love confirmation/a persons experience of this before i switch...


Thx all!

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Originally Posted by FuRy88;15603714 
btw just a mention for your help Sean.. please do not doubt it is MUCH appreciated! +rep

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post #20 of 41
first off, go to corsair's ssd section in their support forum

secondly, i have a p6x58d-e with a gskill sata III ssd that was not getting the advertised read/write.

I solved my problem by going to their support forum, where they had their latest firmware posted and specific instructions for optimization of their ssd (Corsair prob has the same)

now my x58 and ssd are performing as they should
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