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So I'm new to the forums here, decided to join after finally deciding to overclock my home built desktop computer. Here is the hardware as a little background:

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 64 bit 6000+ Brisbane black edition
MoBo: ECS Elite Group A780GM-A Black Edition V1.0
Memory: 2x 2gb OCZ SLI Ready Dual Channel PC2-6400 DDR2
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Power Supply: Ultra 600 Watt
CPU Cooler: Ultra X-Wind 120mm
HDD: WD Caviar 1TB SATA300 and WD Caviar 500GB ATA

So with that out of the way, on to my issue. I have read through the overclocking tutorial and understand how to go about the process. First problem is that with the mobo I have, I can only control the CPU clock through the reference clock. I can't adjust the CPU multiplier which seems to be locked at 15.5x. I can however adjust the HT multiplier and partial control of memory clock with rather large steps.

Now to my issue. Going by the guide I found on these forums for overclocking an AM2 processor, I started off by lowering the memory down to 200mhz. I can't isolate the CPU from the mobo clock though since I only have the reference clock for that adjustment, so my initial attempts at finding the max overclock for the mobo and CPU involved adjusting the reference only. I wasn't able to adjust it very far before I ran into an issue though, only getting to 215 on the reference clock. I ran Orthos to stress test the machine on a blended test. The computer failed within 5 seconds every time, even tried a CPU only test with the same result. I tried reducing the HT to 800mhz thinking the mobo didn't like the HT going over 1050 mhz, with no change, still failed within 5 seconds.

I'm new to this and not completely sure why its destabilizing at such a low overclock. I did experiment on an older machine a couple years go that was running a Athlon64 X2 3800+ and an el cheapo mobo that had no other control than the reference clock and got a stable system with the processor at nearly 3 ghz, stock was 2.4. Unfortunately with virtually no control of other hardware, the overclock was useless as the memory went out of whack and actually slowed down along with the HT being hit badly (quite odd actually). With my current machine, I don't think its memory causing the issue since I have limited it so greatly. Is it possible I need to up my CPU voltage already?

Thanks for any help.
post #2 of 5
It's the motherboard. ECS are junk thru and thru. Don't bother OC'ing on that board unless you plan on buying a new home from the fire it's going to create.
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Hmmm, seems you may be right. Tried upping the Vcore only 8mv and it failed to POST even.
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I never got my 6000+ past something like 3.25-3.3ghz... I had a crap board too though. Still don't think the 6000+ have much room to oc though.
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Thats odd, I figured the 6000+ would be good to at least 3.5 ghz, 3.25-3.3 is barely more than what it does stock. To be honest, I was looking forward to trying to hit 3.7 ghz or more with this thing. What really sucks is that I would have to do a complete CPU and mobo package now if I want to do any overclocking with this rig since AM2 boards are nearly extinct. At that point i'm better off just building a whole new system and keeping this one as a server. Besides the video card, everything in the rig is at least a year old or older.

After looking through the AM2 club thread and seeing what people are running on the 6000+, I'm quite disappointed. There is one person there that just about made it to 3.7ghz, the rest are 3.4 or less. Just wondering, is the Black Edition of the 6000+ essentially overclocked right out of the box? I seen a few that were under 3 ghz on this processor. Mine I know runs at 3.1 ghz right now with a Vcore of 1.392. I'm pretty sure the Black Edition basically means it is unlocked already, but didn't think it would have a faster clock straight out of the box.
Edited by led86 - 11/6/11 at 7:41pm
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