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THIS!!! take a look @ my sig rig
Man, it is unfortunate. Though at least in terms of CPU performance, I have a feeling that the rumored unlocked A8-3870 may be more attractive than the quad core trinity chips, as the 3.6 GHz FX-4100 seems to sit between the A6-3650 and A8-3850 in CPU performance. It'll take significant IPC and clock increases to make the dual module trinity chips attractive in cpu performance vs llano.
post #72 of 83
guys looking for an upgrade: unlocked a8-3870 will be out in december i think

strap an h100 to that and enjoy crysis
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Man, it is unfortunate. Though at least in terms of CPU performance, I have a feeling that the rumored unlocked A8-3870 may be more attractive than the quad core trinity chips, as the 3.6 GHz FX-4100 seems to sit between the A6-3650 and A8-3850 in CPU performance. It'll take significant IPC and clock increases to make the dual module trinity chips attractive in cpu performance vs llano.
increase gpu performance would make it attractive to the masses
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my gigabyte board lets me raise the GPU clock, but I think it does that through the FSB. same for RAM 1866+
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increase gpu performance would make it attractive to the masses
I agree. Hopefully ram speeds and memory bandwidth won't hold Trinity's GPU back too much. With any luck the rumors about dedicated memory for the GPU will be true. If they are, it might explain the necessity of a socket change. As we've seen with AM3 -> AM3+, the transition to the Bulldozer/Piledriver architecture alone doesn't really explain the necessity of socket incompatibility. Of course it could also be that AMD didn't want to waste time validating Trinity on FM1 boards.
post #76 of 83
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Originally Posted by Seronx View Post
Theoretically, no

Realistically, yes

IPC doesn't improve theoretically



Bulldozer doesn't need more cache it needs less with faster access times
For the L2 and L3, I agree. More L1 cache would probably help though

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I checked the list and Llano can only work dual graphics with anything lower than Turks XT, so will the next gen of llano or trinity support lets say Cayman Pro ?
Why would you expect an integrated 7000 series with probably somewhere between 400 and 800 SPs to CF and work well with a 6000 series card with 1400 SPs?

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So it looks like Piledriver cores are going to be pretty bad as well From an English translation:
That makes no sense; the FX-8150 is around 15% faster than the A8 in Cinebench single threaded (probably with Turbo Core enabled, so at 4.2GHz, but still...).
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For the L2 and L3, I agree. More L1 cache would probably help though
Nay! there be a buffer for each the L1i and L1ds which are pretty good making the 4 cycle to load pretty null

Piledriver will have increased buffers mostly all of them are getting doubled in size 32B -> 64B and 256B -> 512B

With Steamroller increasing the amount of entries in all of those buffers
Edited by Seronx - 11/8/11 at 12:02am
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I love it how the "Benefit" column has a null value in the "Physical socket" row

@JY: notice where the pins are missing. You'll notice those spots are positioned in different places.
     
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considering these are BD cores, the frequency is quite pathetic as will be the cpu performance :|
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considering these are BD cores, the frequency is quite pathetic as will be the cpu performance :|
Nice, can you also tell me the lottery numbers?
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