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Im looking to get a a set of outdoor speakers and a receiver to put it outside my house on the pool area, i don't want to spend much.. and i want to connect the system to a apple airport express (http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/features/airplay.html) so i can play wirelessly play music on them...

I want to use the Yamaha outdoor speakers I think they are 130w peak... Looking for the amp now
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I assume the amp you will be using will be mounted inside with the airport, just the speakers will be outside right?

With your application in mind, I see no reason for a full size cumbersome amplifier. You just need a simple audio in and some amplified output and a volume knob...

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-383
That amp will provide more clean power than most full "size" integrated/receiver style units costing twice as much. It's a nice convenient little amp that is perfect for connecting an ipod or airport to to drive some outdoors speakers with. In fact, that's what most people who buy that amp use it for.

Don't buy your speakers or your amplifier based on Watts. Wattage ratings are, far less important than you have been lead to believe. And I already know you have been lead to believe they are important because you are quoting the "wattage" rating of some speakers. Considering the fact that the vast majority of listening takes place at around a watt per channel or less, you can comfortably forget about wattage ratings unless you are planning on having a rock concert in your back yard, in which case, you need very different equipment anyways.

As far as the speakers themselves go, I'm not sure what size/cost range you had in mind, but something like this: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/OSD-Audio-AP840-Performance-White/dp/B002BLWX2E"]Amazon.com: OSD Audio AP840 Outdoor High Performance Patio Speaker Pair (White): Electronics[/ame] would probably be pretty nice. My suggestion here, since it's for outdoor use where there is no room loading, is to look for outdoor speakers with larger diameter woofers. They'll give you better efficiency down low, and be able to project the lower frequencies better in open-air conditions. I'd say 8" woofers would be about the minimum I would want personally.
     
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Originally Posted by mdocod;15608560 
I assume the amp you will be using will be mounted inside with the airport, just the speakers will be outside right?

With your application in mind, I see no reason for a full size cumbersome amplifier. You just need a simple audio in and some amplified output and a volume knob...

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-383
That amp will provide more clean power than most full "size" integrated/receiver style units costing twice as much. It's a nice convenient little amp that is perfect for connecting an ipod or airport to to drive some outdoors speakers with. In fact, that's what most people who buy that amp use it for.

Don't buy your speakers or your amplifier based on Watts. Wattage ratings are, far less important than you have been lead to believe. And I already know you have been lead to believe they are important because you are quoting the "wattage" rating of some speakers. Considering the fact that the vast majority of listening takes place at around a watt per channel or less, you can comfortably forget about wattage ratings unless you are planning on having a rock concert in your back yard, in which case, you need very different equipment anyways.

As far as the speakers themselves go, I'm not sure what size/cost range you had in mind, but something like this: Amazon.com: OSD Audio AP840 Outdoor High Performance Patio Speaker Pair (White): Electronics would probably be pretty nice. My suggestion here, since it's for outdoor use where there is no room loading, is to look for outdoor speakers with larger diameter woofers. They'll give you better efficiency down low, and be able to project the lower frequencies better in open-air conditions. I'd say 8" woofers would be about the minimum I would want personally.

so for the $50 difference those that you linked are better than the http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Yamaha+-+Natural+Sound+6-1/2%22+2-Way+All-Weather+Outdoor+Speakers+(Pair)+-+Black/8837716.p?id=1208561589648&skuId=8837716&st=outdoor%20speaker&cp=1&lp=2

Yamaha NS-AW390BL
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I don't know if I would call either speaker "better" than the other. I just know that I would rather have the the speaker with the larger diameter woofer in this case. The ones I linked to are rated 3DB better efficiency, which translates to half as much amplification for the same listening level, which translates to cleaner sound at a given amplification level in most cases. That said, most people would probably be perfectly happy with most out-door speaker pairs in the ~$100 range. You don't need to spend $200 on this unless you think you will personally benefit from that in a way that is worthwhile. There is a very good chance that you may be perfectly well satisfied by a pair of units with 4" drivers in them. They will all play music just fine so it's hard to go wrong here. Let me know if that amp I suggested is within budget for you.

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Originally Posted by mdocod;15612905 
I don't know if I would call either speaker "better" than the other. I just know that I would rather have the the speaker with the larger diameter woofer in this case. The ones I linked to are rated 3DB better efficiency, which translates to half as much amplification for the same listening level, which translates to cleaner sound at a given amplification level in most cases. That said, most people would probably be perfectly happy with most out-door speaker pairs in the ~$100 range. You don't need to spend $200 on this unless you think you will personally benefit from that in a way that is worthwhile. There is a very good chance that you may be perfectly well satisfied by a pair of units with 4" drivers in them. They will all play music just fine so it's hard to go wrong here. Let me know if that amp I suggested is within budget for you.

Eric

Yup amp is witHin budget
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