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post #11 of 19
I'd drop the 6870 get a 6850
Get a XSPC Raystorm CPU block
Try to squeeze an M4 SSD into your budget

Also I've had no problem with gigabyte's z68 offerings and i've used the ud3's and ud4's.

Also I don't see fittings in your list.

EDIT: your 6870 price is fine, get the 6870.
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Some people may disagree but I think you'd be better served with more actual crunching power of an i7 970. 6 cores, 12 threads. For your purposes, it most definitely would out do SB IMO.

When real rendering and encoding is concerned, SB still doesn't hold a candle to the hexacores.

SB is better for gaming. Sure it does well in benchmarks, but anytime video encoding and such are involved, the hexacores dominate.
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Originally Posted by C-bro View Post
CUDA produces INFERIOR image quality 99% of the time.

I'm a CUDA dev at a major broadcast tech company and we avoid any sort of CUDA encode like the plague.

Test and comparisons: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...-2100-tested/9

That said, depending on the applications that run your stats workloads, they could see a substantial performance boost using CUDA.
I'm not going to bother linking any tests but I have seen some (maybe not 65%) results where CUDA produced superior quality to the CPU or otherwise. I definitely wouldn't call it at 99% though.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by wondergod View Post
I'd drop the 6870 get a 6850
Get a XSPC Raystorm CPU block
Try to squeeze an M4 SSD into your budget

Also I've had no problem with gigabyte's z68 offerings and i've used the ud3's and ud4's.

Also I don't see fittings in your list.

EDIT: your 6870 price is fine, get the 6870.
Haven't gotten to the fittings yet. Im undecided for the moment. The 6870 price is good, it's. Matter of buying now or waiting into dec and hoping prices drop more as new stuff comes out.
    
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post #15 of 19
Ya I edited it because I say the 6870 price wasn't much more and it was worth the few bucks.

I'd defiantly try to get an M4 SSD if possible though, they are smokin!
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post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by wondergod View Post
I'd defiantly try to get an M4 SSD if possible though, they are smokin!
This is true the are very fast. Cant go wrong with a good ssd


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Edited by Los Hog - 11/7/11 at 10:29am
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post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by wondergod View Post
Ya I edited it because I say the 6870 price wasn't much more and it was worth the few bucks.

I'd defiantly try to get an M4 SSD if possible though, they are smokin!
I saw the edit. I meant that I was on the fence at whether to jump on that price or gamble that it will get cheaper over the next 4-6 weeks.

I'm definitely getting an SSD, but I really want something with high IOPS and the SSD prices are dropping weekly, so I think that will be the last component that I buy.

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Some people may disagree but I think you'd be better served with more actual crunching power of an i7 970. 6 cores, 12 threads. For your purposes, it most definitely would out do SB IMO.

When real rendering and encoding is concerned, SB still doesn't hold a candle to the hexacores.

SB is better for gaming. Sure it does well in benchmarks, but anytime video encoding and such are involved, the hexacores dominate.

I've considered the 9xx, but I wasnt sure about overclocking potential and between the additional cost of the chip and the fact that the Mobo isnt supported anymore, I didnt think it seemed worth it. I figure that if the 2600k seems to slow, then in 6 - 8 months I could just replace the CPU on the same board. Am I thinking about this wrong?
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I've considered the 9xx, but I wasnt sure about overclocking potential and between the additional cost of the chip and the fact that the Mobo isnt supported anymore, I didnt think it seemed worth it. I figure that if the 2600k seems to slow, then in 6 - 8 months I could just replace the CPU on the same board. Am I thinking about this wrong?
I'm not sure what you mean by the mobo isn't supported anymore.

In regards to your other questions however, you can get a 970 for $500 shipped. There's actually a guy selling a 990x, brand new unopened, locally for $700. (bet I can talk em down to $600).

At any rate, you can pick up a used 1366 board, a decent one at that, for ~$100. I just saw a used MSI big bang (I think) for $80 shipped in the OCN marketplace. Regardless, that would save you ~$100. Not to mention you could use a helluva lot more RAM on a 1366 board (check with the actual board manufacturer regarding max RAM supported).
As far as overclocking is concerned, people manage to get 4.0 out of the 970 really easily on air. Commonplace is 4.2-4.4, and especially for you it would be easy since you're going under water.

As far as results are concerned, well when I was reading through the "BD fail" threads, there were a lot of links that compared the 970 and 980 to the other CPU's, and I distinctly recall being wowed at the actual crunching power of the 970/980's when it came to actual rendering and such. The programs that can take advantage of the extra cores and threads benefited greatly from it. I recall the 980x literally doubling the performance of SB in those CPU intensive tasks.

Only reason I'm even suggesting this CPU is because I think it would serve your purposes better than a SB CPU. SB is great for what it is, more of an enthusiast CPU, and yes it performs well in a lot of things, it's not even half bad at rendering, however, in real apps (not benchmarks), the hexacores just beat them (not in gaming of course).

So the price difference, quite honestly, would be negligible, relatively speaking. Especially since RAM has gotten so cheap. You'd be able to run 24GB for less than $200.
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I'm not sure what you mean by the mobo isn't supported anymore.

In regards to your other questions however, you can get a 970 for $500 shipped. There's actually a guy selling a 990x, brand new unopened, locally for $700. (bet I can talk em down to $600).

At any rate, you can pick up a used 1366 board, a decent one at that, for ~$100. I just saw a used MSI big bang (I think) for $80 shipped in the OCN marketplace. Regardless, that would save you ~$100. Not to mention you could use a helluva lot more RAM on a 1366 board (check with the actual board manufacturer regarding max RAM supported).
As far as overclocking is concerned, people manage to get 4.0 out of the 970 really easily on air. Commonplace is 4.2-4.4, and especially for you it would be easy since you're going under water.

As far as results are concerned, well when I was reading through the "BD fail" threads, there were a lot of links that compared the 970 and 980 to the other CPU's, and I distinctly recall being wowed at the actual crunching power of the 970/980's when it came to actual rendering and such. The programs that can take advantage of the extra cores and threads benefited greatly from it. I recall the 980x literally doubling the performance of SB in those CPU intensive tasks.

Only reason I'm even suggesting this CPU is because I think it would serve your purposes better than a SB CPU. SB is great for what it is, more of an enthusiast CPU, and yes it performs well in a lot of things, it's not even half bad at rendering, however, in real apps (not benchmarks), the hexacores just beat them (not in gaming of course).

So the price difference, quite honestly, would be negligible, relatively speaking. Especially since RAM has gotten so cheap. You'd be able to run 24GB for less than $200.
Wow a 990x for 600 I wouldnt even think about passing on. What I meant with the mobo is that I read Ivy Bridge will be supported by the 1155 socket, so if I get the 2600K, I can upgrade to an IVB chip without changing the mobo out. I've read 1366 socket will end with the i7 9xx series.

I was under the impression that the 980x / 990x were unlocked similar to the 2xxxK chips and can be easily overclocked, but the non "x" branded versions were much more difficult to work with. I was originally going to go with a 1366 and 980x simply because 6 cores seemed better than 4 to my non CPU educated self. Then I was told repeatedly that the 2600K is a great chip and given that it was 1/3 the price, it was a clear winner, which seemed reasonable. When my budget got cut that seemed to solidify the deal. I figure a 2600K, plus a board is 500. If I could get a 980x/990x and board for ~200 more that would be a no brainer, but I'm not that lucky of a person to be honest.
    
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