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Yay! I was at Fry's yesterday, and my girlfriend surprised me by saying I can have $80 for my two year anniversary gift to me from her. After talking a bit about how I don't really need a solid state, she mentioned maybe I could get some new computer speakers so I could get the huge antique speakers out of the way (one is in the picture at the bottom -- they're huge.) Anyway, I managed to talk her into the Onkyo HT-S5400. (edit - just because I forgot to post the price lol, it wasn't $80. It was $419.)

So far been playing around with it, and it produces a really nice sound. A little tinny, and the bass leaves a bit to be desired but so far I like it. Hooked it up to my Xonar Essence STX via optical and so far have been enjoying FLACs, MP3s and movies in full, true surround sound.

I had originally made my own hacked together 5.1 system (more like 5.2) out of a set of 2.1 Logitech speakers for the front, the rear was my two antique speakers and the front/LFE was done using a splitter for that channel with a spliced two-speaker system and then a full powered sub. It was fun while it lasted, but this is far, far better.

QUESTION: I have a powered sub by KLH, the GFX550L. Would it be better to use the provided sub, or use the KLH for more filling bass? Note: It looks like to hook up, I just run the pre-out from the amp to the mono RCA connector on the back of the sub, correct?


Thanks guys, and here is a picture!


edit 2: Here are a couple pics of the KLH sub, if you can figure out what to do with it that'd be great!




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Now you have to give her a gift for $160 lol

As an FYI, optical can't do true 5.1 btw. It doesn't have the bandwidth. You will still rely on dolby digital or DTS for 5.1 encoding.

I would try both subwoofers and see which one you like more. The pre-out should be easy. Out of the amp, find the sub output RCA. The amp should have an RCA connector if it has a built in amp.

Edit: I see the sub in the pic. Just use RCA to connect to one of the input's (red and white). The sub is mono so it technically doesn't need 2 plugged in.
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Now you have to give her a gift for $160 lol

As an FYI, optical can't do true 5.1 btw. It doesn't have the bandwidth. You will still rely on dolby digital or DTS for 5.1 encoding.

I would try both subwoofers and see which one you like more. The pre-out should be easy. Out of the amp, find the sub output RCA. The amp should have an RCA connector if it has a built in amp.

Edit: I see the sub in the pic. Just use RCA to connect to one of the input's (red and white). The sub is mono so it technically doesn't need 2 plugged in.
She's getting an engagement ring ;P

Also, I just hooked it up and the crossover on the amp is KILLING the fill. Like, it sounds a lot fuller now with this sub by far, but I'm having issues with the fill of the sound system. I upped the crossover to 200 Hz, but I'm struggling with the tinniness. Maybe it's just me or it'll take some getting used to because the sound is way "clearer" and I can hear the distortion from crappy encoded MP3s, or it really is just crappy bookshelf speakers?

edit: What should I use to run 7.1/5.1? I have a 7.1 system, and I want to get the clarity from it. I understand encoding, btw.
     
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She's getting an engagement ring ;P

Also, I just hooked it up and the crossover on the amp is KILLING the fill. Like, it sounds a lot fuller now with this sub by far, but I'm having issues with the fill of the sound system. I upped the crossover to 200 Hz, but I'm struggling with the tinniness. Maybe it's just me or it'll take some getting used to because the sound is way "clearer" and I can hear the distortion from crappy encoded MP3s, or it really is just crappy bookshelf speakers?

edit: What should I use to run 7.1/5.1? I have a 7.1 system, and I want to get the clarity from it. I understand encoding, btw.
Oh k that ring is expensive lol.

As for the subwoofer, I don't know what to say since I am not there. You will have to tweak it.

The only way to get True 5.1/7.1 is with HDMI. It has the bandwidth to transmit it. There was a guide but I can't find it now. Take a look at avsforum.com. They have a great guide and info thread for setups.

For true 5.1/7.1 : Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA

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Basically DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, and PCM are all exact copies of the studio masters and arguably the same
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/22/h...hd-and-dts-hd/
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My sound card doesn't have HDMI out! I've been shammed! Noooooooooooooooo
The newer video cards can do Lossless bitstreaming through the hdmi. Even some motherboards will send out unfiltered audio through it's hdmi port. You just need to set it up (they are limited I believe, not 100% sure)

It most cases you won't notice unless you are playing blurays from your computer (actual disk and not downloaded since downloaded copies are compressed).

Your setup should be fine. Next step would be to upgrade to bookshelf speakers
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Now you have to give her a gift for $160 lol lachen.gif
As an FYI, optical can't do true 5.1 btw. It doesn't have the bandwidth. You will still rely on dolby digital or DTS for 5.1 encoding.
I would try both subwoofers and see which one you like more. The pre-out should be easy. Out of the amp, find the sub output RCA. The amp should have an RCA connector if it has a built in amp.
Edit: I see the sub in the pic. Just use RCA to connect to one of the input's (red and white). The sub is mono so it technically doesn't need 2 plugged in.

What do you mean "true" 5.1? Optical can output 5.1 LOSSY in the form of Dolby 5.1 and DTS, but it's still 5.1. It's limited to 2 channels of LOSSLESS PCM. HDMI allows for up to 7.1 LOSSLESS in the form of DTS-MA, DSD, Dolby-TrueHD, PCM.

Anyways, you can connect your 560 Ti to your receiver through the HDMI out on the graphics card. Then, you can set it up through Windows and fiddling with your receiver.

Don't put your crossover at 200hz, that's too high for a sub. The receiver also comes with Audyssey room-correction: use it to get the best response from your speakers. I suggest setting the crossover at 80-90hz, if Audyssey doesn't automatically do that for you.

As for the sub, extension to 30hz ain't bad, but if you can live with it just keep it. There are better subs, but they obviously cost more money (the choice is yours biggrin.gif).
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I wanted to ask if you genuinely get a better feel of the sound around you with the small circumference for the speakers you have. I am looking to get a 5.1 system and have been on the fence on how to go about it due to budget limitations. i have a small room at home and will for the forseeable future be living in an apartment.

Does a small space like that work for surround? i would like to think it does
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It should, how small are we talking here? Unless room size limits positioning of the speakers, it should work.
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Not reading the whole thread but... he can get "true" surround sound with optical, just not TrueHD or DTSMA-HD.
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