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Mmmm.. Do want.

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Wait... If this is from North Texas researchers, how come they are at UT Southwestern?
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The scientists discovered that when there is less REDD-1 protein in a cell, viruses like the flu can invade and corrupt the cell in a matter of hours. But when this compound is added, boosting the presence of the REDD-1 protein, the flu (no matter what strain) is held at bay
Less than what? Less than normal? Less than with the compound?

What are the other effects of this compound, how does it work to boost REDD-1?

What are the other effects of REDD-1 and side effects of bringing it to greater than normal elevations?

It is interesting, but I'd need to know a lot more about this compound before I cared to take it. I don't get vaccinated for the flu ever and I don't get sick. If I do, I stay home for a few days and move on with my life.

I could see this being of benefit for immuno-compromised people.
Edited by _02 - 11/7/11 at 7:08am
    
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Less than what? Less than normal? Less than with the compound?

What are the other effects of this compound, how does it work to boost REDD-1? What are the other effects of REDD-1 and side effects of bringing it to greater than normal elevations?

It is interesting, but I'd need to know a lot more about this compound before I cared to take it. I don't get vaccinated for the flu ever.
Virus's attach to the cell and punch a hole through to infect the cell. Effectively the vaccine increases the protein's levels, creating a shield that is impossible for the virus to punch through.

It still has a few years of FDA testing and other approvals before it is given out.
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Effectively the vaccine increases the protein's levels, creating a shield that is impossible for the virus to penetrate.
Are you saying that the body uses the REDD-1 protein as part of its natural immune response?

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This is great for normal people, not so great for conspiracy theorist who think vaccinations are a form of population control.
I think vaccines are a good medical tool for society. However, bear with me.

There are documented incidents of public vaccination programs being used with ulterior motives. I'll go ahead and defer any mass public injection to people who can really benefit from it like the elderly. I'll get needles in my arm when I really need it. I can stand being sick for a week.

More video games for me.
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You know I've never had a flu shot and have never got the flu. However many I know have caught it and they all say it's a real S.O.B. - so I'm down for better vaccinations of all sorts. This is a great medical development, this shots method of action is far more ideal than traditional vaccination against such ills.
 
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We have immune systems for a reason. Let them do their jobs. I don't know why people seem to think they are doing something beneficial for themselves by pumping themselves full of vaccines.

Vaccines have the virus in them to begin with, which is why some people have very bad reactions because you're effectively infecting yourself to build anti-bodies. However they like to put other things in vaccines that are not beneficial in anyway.

Regardless of what's in the vaccines, it's always nice to see advancements, however I am skeptical of it's claims. Also, as always _02 makes great points

But honestly, I don't care if people want to vaccinate themselves, as long as they don't think it's ok to forcefully make me take it or any other vaccine for that matter, because I won't. And I'll stick to that as I rarely get sick, I honestly don't even remember the last time I was sick, had to been a few years ago now.
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Are you saying that the body uses the REDD-1 protein as part of its natural immune response?



I think vaccines are a good medical tool for society. However, bear with me.

There are documented incidents of public vaccination programs being used with ulterior motives. I'll go ahead and defer any mass public injection to people who can really benefit from it like the elderly. I'll get needles in my arm when I really need it. I can stand being sick for a week.

More video games for me.
Please link to these documented incidents. Vaccines have saved billions of lives by eradicating Small pox, Polio, and others. I'd rather not play my luck and pray I don't get Polio, when it is easily preventable.
     
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We have immune systems for a reason. Let them do their jobs. I don't know why people seem to think they are doing something beneficial for themselves by pumping themselves full of vaccines.

Vaccines have the virus in them to begin with, which is why some people have very bad reactions because you're effectively infecting yourself to build anti-bodies. However they like to put other things in vaccines that are not beneficial in anyway.

Regardless of what's in the vaccines, it's always nice to see advancements, however I am skeptical of it's claims. Also, as always _02 makes great points
While people do have immune systems that deal with most threats, your immune system cannot deal with what it has never encountered yet. It has to encounter the strain of flu in order to built resistance/immunity to that strain (thus how the vaccine works).

This year there are many strains of the flu going around, this years vaccine is target at what is believed to be the most common. This vaccine would save all the guess work.
    
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What I can't believe is that there even OCNers who are against vaccines. Especially a mod. Do you really buy into the "Vaccines are population control" when it has proven time and time again that it is the exact opposite? You are the type of people who wont get your kids vaccinated and then as soon as they visit another country they would get horribly sick and possibly die.
     
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