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There's nothing more ignorant than the statement "I don't get sick. I haven't been sick in x years!". While the flu is usually not a big deal for the most us, sometimes it is. I trust scientists and doctors more than people relying on common sense. Shoot me up, doc.


Edit: "I didn't get the vaccine, and I didn't get it!" is equally stupid. I have never been in a car crash, but I still get car insurance. Just because you've never had it, doesn't mean you will never have it.
Edited by videoman5 - 11/7/11 at 2:16pm
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Methods to boost basal immunity are a very promising approach
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There's nothing more ignorant than the statement "I don't get sick. I haven't been sick in x years!". While the flu is usually not a big deal for the most us, sometimes it is. I trust scientists and doctors more than people relying on common sense. Shoot me up, doc.


Edit: "I didn't get the vaccine, and I didn't get it!" is equally stupid. I have never been in a car crash, but I still get car insurance. Just because you've never had it, doesn't mean you will never have it.
That is ignorant. But even still, how can you not see Big Pharma?
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It wont do, no such thing as ultimate flu shot, virus or w/e will become immune and adopt to the new vaccine then you'll have a ultimate uncurable flu
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That is ignorant. But even still, how can you not see Big Pharma?
Oh really? Show me your MD. Yeah, Big Pharma aggressively pushes their products, and while that's wrong, their studies aren't intentionally wrong.
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There's nothing more ignorant than the statement "I don't get sick. I haven't been sick in x years!". While the flu is usually not a big deal for the most us, sometimes it is. I trust scientists and doctors more than people relying on common sense. Shoot me up, doc.


Edit: "I didn't get the vaccine, and I didn't get it!" is equally stupid. I have never been in a car crash, but I still get car insurance. Just because you've never had it, doesn't mean you will never have it.
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It wont do, no such thing as ultimate flu shot, virus or w/e will become immune and adopt to the new vaccine then you'll have a ultimate uncurable flu
Yeah, this. Influenza adapts very easily and evolves. Flu shots MAY help but not in the long run. It's sorta like AIDS in that respect.
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There's nothing more ignorant than the statement "I don't get sick. I haven't been sick in x years!". While the flu is usually not a big deal for the most us, sometimes it is. I trust scientists and doctors more than people relying on common sense. Shoot me up, doc.


Edit: "I didn't get the vaccine, and I didn't get it!" is equally stupid. I have never been in a car crash, but I still get car insurance. Just because you've never had it, doesn't mean you will never have it.


People also trusted scientists that said smoking had no ill effects. Also, that fluoride is good for you. Or that the sun revolves around the earth.

You must follow the money, follow the money and it will tell you the truth.
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People also trusted scientists that said smoking had no ill effects. Also, that fluoride is good for you. Or that the sun revolves around the earth.

You must follow the money, follow the money and it will tell you the truth.

Scientists who follow the evidence and are willing to change the story if their understanding changes are more reliable than people believing what they want to with no factual basis. Scientists used to believe the Sun revolved around the Earth, but they also discovered that it was the other way around. Scientists didn't realize the consequences of smoking initially, but it's because of them we know those consequences now.

It's wrong to say "I haven't been sick in X years", because personal experience is worth almost nothing scientifically. It's like those people who say "I've been eating McDonalds for 60 years every day and I'm still fine" or "My grandma lived to 100 and smoked a pack a day". Yeah, there are exceptions, but that doesn't mean anything.
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Scientists who follow the evidence and are willing to change the story if their understanding changes are more reliable than people believing what they want to with no factual basis. Scientists used to believe the Sun revolved around the Earth, but they also discovered that it was the other way around. Scientists didn't realize the consequences of smoking initially, but it's because of them we know those consequences now.

It's wrong to say "I haven't been sick in X years", because personal experience is worth almost nothing scientifically. It's like those people who say "I've been eating McDonalds for 60 years every day and I'm still fine" or "My grandma lived to 100 and smoked a pack a day". Yeah, there are exceptions, but that doesn't mean anything.
But if they're unsure of the long term effects, isn't it well within someone's own rights to have reservations? Science has been wrong before and if people want to remain skeptical, it's their prerogative. I don't agree here but it's still a subjective opinion.
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