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11/7/11 at 6:31am

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Which one do you find superior ? I can't decide given the different looks of the internals of each case.

PC-A71F:

Interior:

PC-A71B:

Interior:

Note the A71B has 6 fans while the A71F only has 4.
Now, sitting with 2x GTX 460 both overclocked and an upcoming 2500K (presumably overclocked to around 4,5GHz with a H50 in push/pull) airflow is important to me.
Their price is around the same, so are the Newegg reviews and I love the aesthetics on both of them. (pff, who don't....)

The design inside the A71B confuses me a tad. It's seems akward compared to many other cases. However, if it delivers better airflow, it's a big plus. Not to mention the fact that they're both pretty silent.

So who's got an opinion ? Cons, pros, experience ?
Edited by p4p3r - 11/7/11 at 6:43am

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11/7/11 at 6:40am

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I would go with the a71b.

CPU cooler mounting hole, looks like it has more space, more fans as you stated, and it also looks like it has slightly more for cable management. My only complaint with lian li cases is the lack of cable holes on the motherboard tray, but other than that you should still be able to manage the wires quite well. I managed to do mine and hide everything but the important ones.

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11/7/11 at 6:48am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rdasch3

Actually I accidentally switched the images around, so it would be the A71F with the hole for the CPU cooler mount and the A71B with more fans.
Sorry !

Anyway, I see your point. The A71B may have a slight edge based on the improved cable management.

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11/7/11 at 7:06am

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There also might be a separate top you can buy for these cases to give them top fans as well. Mine has the option to replace the top with one that has 3 fans. I have not opted for it.

I personally like the look and feel of the case above with the cpu hole as well as its cable management features, but airflow would cause a problem if it has less, especially with your 2 460's.

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11/7/11 at 7:26am

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Yeah, that's the issue. The A71F would be my absolute pick if it had better airflow around the GPU's or just in general, which is where the A71B really shines, it seems.

I could install a fan beside the HDD cage directing airflow to the lowest of my GTX 460, since both my PSU and GTX 460 are grabbing all the air in that crowded area.
Decisions, decisions...

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11/7/11 at 7:34am

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Not sure what price range you have, but if it is possible, you could always look at something higher up to give you something with both of those featrues, but more than likely that would steer away from lian li in order to keep the price down. I find it near impossible to choose between airflow and cable management features. I need both.

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11/7/11 at 8:05am

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I'm actually happy with my Phantom concerning both cable management and airflow - it rocks at both. I just got tired of it's very striking (/gamer) look and appearence including LED's and such.

The A71B is most likely my maximum budget I'm willing to offer for a case. I'm all in love with Lian Li's very simplistic design. I have looked at similiar cases (Fractal Design Define F3 XL etc.) which seem tempting but doesn't have the same "feel" or "smoothness" as the Lian Li ones. Cases like the A71F seems very completed compared to many other cases.

...I guess, if need be, I could always cut a hole with a dremmel to place a fan and improve the airflow or do a similar mod.

I appreciate all the feedback btw ! Thanks.
Edited by p4p3r - 11/7/11 at 8:17am

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Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Costum watercooling (XSPC RASA)	Win 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)	Dell U2410 - IPS, 1920x1200	Logitech Illuminated
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11/7/11 at 11:22am

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I agree. The lian li's are very simplistic. Modified parts can make the case cost even more unless you do it yourself. Putting some fans up at the top if it doesn;t have it should not be hard. I would check performance-pcs.com and see their custom lian li section. If you are a side panel person like me, some of those cases have some ok windows. The lian li windows that are sold spearately are horrible. Anyway, good luck with the case.

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\| i7 2600K @ 4.7GHz	\| Asus P8p67 WS Revolution B3	\| MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme 3GB SLI	\| G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 Blue 16GB
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\| Samsung 830 256GB SSD	\| OCZ Summit 120GB SSD	\| Samsung Blu Ray	\| Phanteks PH-TC14PE Blue
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
\| Samsung 830 256GB SSD	\| OCZ Summit 120GB SSD	\| Samsung Blu Ray	\| Phanteks PH-TC14PE Blue
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
\| Windows 7 Ultimate x64	\| 3 x Dell u2311h	\| Filco Ninja Majestouch 2 MX Black	\| OCZ 1000w Gold Z series
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
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11/7/11 at 12:55pm

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I will surely check out performance-pcs.com, and thanks again !

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Costum watercooling (XSPC RASA)	Win 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)	Dell U2410 - IPS, 1920x1200	Logitech Illuminated
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
M4	F3	Seagate Barracuda	External
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Costum watercooling (XSPC RASA)	Win 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)	Dell U2410 - IPS, 1920x1200	Logitech Illuminated
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XFX 850W Black Edition	Lian Li PC-A71F	Razer Abyssus	Self-made
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