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I'm curious what (if anything) these super unstable elements might be useful for? Or is this a purely scientific endeavor?

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I don't get it, why find "new" elements, when they only appear for a fraction of time? Is it possible to make them more stable? Except freezing them to 0K
Yes it is possible to make them more stable. Problem is we will not be able to coexist with it LOL.. I think there are several reasons why it is important to put these on the charts. for one.. To make sure no one else makes the same discovery lol
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I don't get it, why find "new" elements, when they only appear for a fraction of time? Is it possible to make them more stable? Except freezing them to 0K
You cant freeze anything to 0K
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Technically. The periodic table can go on forever...


And if you think about it. So little is know about these elements that scientist are really just guessing what they can do.

So its might not even be bad to AP students. Since for the most part it wont really matter..
Not really. It probably is not possible to create an element comprised of a few hundred protons.
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Not really. It probably is not possible to create an element comprised of a few hundred protons.
it might not be possible for us to do it on this planet..
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There was a period of @50 years where "we" couldn't harness Titanium from ilmenite because it was unstable yet...We knew it existed...Just saying.
Yup. The element is THERE. It's just not usable yet. We need to figure out how to modify it (however that is done) to become stable. It's taken centuries to figure out what to use all the existing elements for, and new cleaning solutions/thousands of other types of chemical products are still being discovered over the years. Who is to say that we won't come up with a miracle cleaning solution or some other useful discovery with these 3 elements some day?

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You cant freeze anything to 0K
Sure you can, we just can't yet. Just like how we "couldn't" possibly get anything to go faster than the speed of light. Just like how we "couldn't" fly. Technology advances, and changes everything we've thought was impossible.
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Oh, good, my Chem teacher will love putting this on a test.

If it's half life is so minute, why even bother? I understand "science for the greater good," but can we please start focusing more attention on things that really matter, such as eliminating cancer?
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Yup. The element is THERE. It's just not usable yet. We need to figure out how to modify it (however that is done) to become stable. It's taken centuries to figure out what to use all the existing elements for, and new cleaning solutions/thousands of other types of chemical products are still being discovered over the years. Who is to say that we won't come up with a miracle cleaning solution or some other useful discovery with these 3 elements some day?



Sure you can, we just can't yet. Just like how we "couldn't" possibly get anything to go faster than the speed of light. Just like how we "couldn't" fly. Technology advances, and changes everything we've thought was impossible.

cant yet , cant do it , same thing haha .
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Oh, good, my Chem teacher will love putting this on a test.

If it's half life is so minute, why even bother? I understand "science for the greater good," but can we please start focusing more attention on things that really matter, such as eliminating cancer?
What if these 3 specific elements ARE the answer to cancer? I mean, these elements are (likely) hazardous to humans right now, but what if that level of energy that is hazardous to us can be harnessed to kill cancer? I know, it's a big what if, but you'll never know what the elements can be used for unless you actually put effort into stabilizing and experimenting with its uses.
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Oh, good, my Chem teacher will love putting this on a test.

If it's half life is so minute, why even bother? I understand "science for the greater good," but can we please start focusing more attention on things that really matter, such as eliminating cancer?
OMG.. So Every guy going for a advance physics major should leave their college and study medicine? Good Idea... (sarcasm)



You never know. You really dont. What if this new elemnt (Cn) had some special property that.. I dont know... lets say sped up the decay of every other element or somthing... The implications would be insane.
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Technically. The periodic table can go on forever...


And if you think about it. So little is know about these elements that scientist are really just guessing what they can do.

So its might not even be bad to AP students. Since for the most part it wont really matter..
Not true. There is a very real limit to the size of atoms ( I believe around 170 protons), on the threshhold of which quantum phenomena will control their behavior, not a location on the periodic table at all.

Read more about period 8 elements

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What if these 3 specific elements ARE the answer to cancer? I mean, these elements are (likely) hazardous to humans right now, but what if that level of energy that is hazardous to us can be harnessed to kill cancer? I know, it's a big what if, but you'll never know what the elements can be used for unless you actually put effort into stabilizing and experimenting with its uses.
Actually in all likelihood, the larger the elements the more danger to us from either heavy metal poisoning, or radiation.
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